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Date:         Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:55:53 -0500
Reply-To:     Dylan Spurgin <vanagon@MAIL.SPURGIN.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dylan Spurgin <vanagon@MAIL.SPURGIN.NET>
Subject:      Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter...(NVC)
In-Reply-To:  <F164maU41A7spSBZfUh000271d3@hotmail.com>
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People, our list is much more fun if we all know that:

Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics.

Even if you win you're still retarded.

see: http://www.stuffucanuse.com/Odds_and_Sods/arguing1.jpg

ds

At 09:49 AM 8/6/2002 -0700, Aristotle Sagan wrote: >yep Kevin, And if you had bothered to look at Matthew's web site before you >stuck your less impacted foot in your mouth, you might have seen, he is >making a difference. More than most of us can say. > >It's fun watching people make fools of themselves on the net, don'tcha >think? > >tim in majorly blighted san jose, ca > > >>From: kevin obrien <kevindobrien@YAHOO.COM> >>Reply-To: kevin obrien <kevindobrien@YAHOO.COM> >>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter... >>Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:33:00 -0700 >> >>I didn't say I didn't want to preserve it....I was >>implying that a person should ask himself/herself if >>they are doing everything possible to limit the use of >>our enviro-damaging Vans BEFORE they post a message >>suggesting the measures another member should take. >> >>We love our Vanagons...but they are NOT the perfect >>vehicle for enjoying the natural world...or preserving >>it....catalytic converter or none. I think our feet >>do alot less impact.... >> >>Kevin >>--- anthony kimmons <akimmons@HOUSTON.RR.COM> wrote: >> > ditto, Bulley! >> > >> > ...Seems strange to me that someone who owns a van >> > that's perfect for >> > enjoying the >> > natural world would not want to spend a few bucks to >> > help preserve it...oh >> > well... >> > >> > -Tony >> > (new converter, and my van's not even being used >> > right now!) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "G. Matthew Bulley" wrote: >> > >> > > Kevin snidely writes: >> > > >> > > "With a comment like that I really hope you weigh >> > up every trip you make >> > > to the store, around town etc...so as not to burn >> > precious fossil fuels >> > > and pollute the air...not to mention your 2nd car >> > should be a electric >> > > hybrid...is it??? >> > > >> > > Am I to understand that Kevin is making light of >> > the air you or your >> > > kids breathe. >> > > >> > > Maybe in his area of the country they don't have >> > 80+ code orange ozone >> > > days a year. Maybe Kevin doesn't have kids who he >> > wants to grow up >> > > without repository allergies, asthma, or >> > bronchitis. >> > > >> > > Maybe Kevin doesn't know what it is like to go for >> > a 3 mile run and feel >> > > like shit afterward because the air is crap. >> > > >> > > Whatever, Kevin. >> > > >> > > If you are trying to imply that being concerned >> > about the environment we >> > > all share is trivial, I'll let you stew in your >> > own pudding. >> > > >> > > I'll err on the side of caution, and so I'll spend >> > an extra buck or two >> > > to take the train rather than drive. I'll replace >> > that catalytic >> > > converter when it fails. I'll walk to the grocer, >> > the doctor, the >> > > barber, and work at home rather than commuting. >> > > >> > > I wasn't asking for the moon; our Vanagons aren't >> > the most efficient in >> > > the world but with a little technology, they can >> > at least be clean. Just >> > > a little common decency for our fellow travelers. >> > > >> > > Whatever, Kevin, make snide comments and feel smug >> > in your ozone world. >> > > >> > > Pax-- >> > > >> > > G. Matthew Bulley >> > > Mount Olive, NC >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List >> > [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf >> > > Of kevin obrien >> > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:50 PM >> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> > > Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter... >> > > >> > > Hey G. Mathew.... >> > > >> > > With a comment like that I really hope you weigh >> > up >> > > every trip you make to the store, around town >> > etc...so >> > > as not to burn precious fossil fuels and pollute >> > the >> > > air...not to mention your 2nd car should be a >> > electric >> > > hybrid...is it??? >> > > >> > > --- "G. Matthew Bulley" >> > <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM> >> > > wrote: >> > > > And then do the rest of us surface-dwellers a >> > favor >> > > > and spend the $100 >> > > > on a new catalytic converter. >> > > > >> > > > Developing business and guiding change since >> > 1996, >> > > > >> > > > G. Matthew Bulley >> > > > Bulley-Hewlett >> > > > Marketing & Communications >> > > > Business: www.bulley-hewlett.com >> > > > Phone: +1.919.658.1278 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List >> > > > [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf >> > > > Of Matthew Pollard >> > > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:19 PM >> > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> > > > Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic >> > Converter... >> > > > >> > > > oxygen sensor bad = running rich >> > > > >> > > > running rich = more work for cat to do >> > > > >> > > > more work for cat = getting hot & melting, >> > > > literally. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > unplug your oxygen sensor and see how you run. >> > > > better? if so, then >> > > > replace the oxygen sensor. if not change then >> > look >> > > > elsewhere. >> > > > matthew >> > > >> > > __________________________________________________ >> > > Do You Yahoo!? >> > > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >> > > http://health.yahoo.com >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Anthony Kimmons, Houston Texas >> > http://www.akimmons.com >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >>http://health.yahoo.com > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Dylan Spurgin '81 Westy - Elly the Electric Elephant http://spurgin.net/westy1.htm


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