Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 01:53:31 -0700
Reply-To: TinkerMan <tinkerman007@YAHOO.COM>
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From: TinkerMan <tinkerman007@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: ## changing 1990 2.1L waterleaker oil cooler hoses in situ
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Hello Ben,
All I can say is WOW!!!
Your site is exactly (actually, more than I dreamed
possible to find) regarding these issues. Especially
those awsome pictures and descriptions. A great big
HURRAY to you...
And a great big thanks for your contribution to the
list.
Still, I didn't get the answer I'm looking for
(although I now fully understand the system): I want
to change the hoses without removing anything except
for the hoses. I've managed this before although this
task seems much more difficult.
Your desrciptions are more oriented towards overhaul
of the cooling system (wise move in any case). I'm
just a shade tree mechanic (actually, I don't even
have a shade tree...I just have my private parking
spot next to my appartment, no shade except for the
rear hatch...:-(
Also, I don't feel comfortable working in the street.
Quick change of hose OK, but removing water pump, oil
cooler, coolant pipe - well, that's more for a private
garage. I usually do just quick fixes. If it involves
serious operations I usually let the garage do it...
SSSOOO...:
1. From your experience, can I somehow change the
hoses without removing any hardware except for the
hoses and clips? I know it's not the easiest method,
but can it be done?
2. Also, there's that trick of replacing the coolant
hoses (2) and pipe (1) from the thermostat with a
single 5/16", 2 foot hose. Would that be easier since
I don't need access to the two connection points to
the pipe, just to the oil cooler and thermostat
housing? It will also be cheaper in the long run, as
it would cost me only about $4 for such a single tube
with less work,each time I need to do it.
More comments on your response follow:
--- Ben huot <huotx@VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote:
> Hi T-man, first lest me tell you that yours dealer
> is a dumb ass, removing
> the exhaust!
Well, he's not trying to save me money, but actually
enlarge his bank account...he's not dumb at all...:-)
> The parts are about 6$ Canadian each, they took 48
> hours to order!!!
> (Available at the main VW warehouse in Toronto, I am
> in Montreal)
Here they cost about $16 each, and this doesn't
include their work and throwing away all the
coolant...(about $50).
> The easiest way to do this job (I just did one last
> week) is to remove the water pump and-or the big
> metal cooling bypass black tube between the water
> pump and the thermostat), carefully look at all my
Not as easy as I want...
> easier, at the same time you should change this one
> (60$). Check my site
> for a step-by-step procedure at:
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/huotx/water_pump.htm
I changed the water pump and oil cooler about 3 years,
37,000 miles ago. Doesn't seem to need replacement
just yet (no leaks).
> The hard way is to remove the oil cooler only, to do
> so:
I'd prefer not to touch it. I might cause a leak from
the seal to the engine.
> Without removing the big metal cooling bypass black
> tube, you will have a
> harder time reaching the 2 collar that hold the
> tubes to the oil cooler but
> it is feasible.
I thought I might just snip the clips and hoses and
install new, screw-type ones (easy to install
in-situ).
> If you need more info or picture please ask, it's
> free (he he he)
Yep, your opinion for a quick and dirty (but still
reliable) fix to my leaks from the oil cooler hoses...
I just want to know if I can wrangle my hands to do
the job without removing anything...i.e. clip the hose
straps, the hoses (so as not to damage anything due to
excessive force), install new hoses and hose clips and
that's that!...
BTW, the pictures of your motor seem to show lots of
rusting everywhere. Were they actually from your motor
or from another vehicle?
=====
Cheers, T-man.
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