Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:12:06 -0400
Reply-To: Vanagon man <vgonman@MSN.COM>
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From: Vanagon man <vgonman@MSN.COM>
Subject: Re: ## changing 1990 2.1L waterleaker oil cooler hoses in situ
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One thing about those screw type clams that you are
mentioning..............They chafe the hose on the outside and can lead to
failures in the short/long run...........Those spring type stock clamps sort
of just squeeze it............
Look at a piece of hose that has had one of those screw clmps on it, then
look at the other type....You can see the difference.
Adam P
81 Westy "The Brick "
70 Single Cab "Whitey"
74 Beetle "Ol Yeller"
73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop)
1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
75 Campmobile "for sale'
Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled)
----- Original Message -----
From: "TinkerMan" <tinkerman007@YAHOO.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: ## changing 1990 2.1L waterleaker oil cooler hoses in situ
> --- Ari Ollikainen <Ari@OLTECO.com> wrote:
> > At 1:53 AM -0700 8/11/02, TinkerMan wrote:
> > >1. From your experience, can I somehow change the
> > >hoses without removing any hardware except for the
> > >hoses and clips? I know it's not the easiest
> > method,
> > >but can it be done?
> >
> > YESSS!!
> >
> > The key is screw type hose clamps which can be
> > positioned so
> > that they may be tightened from below....or
> > wherever your hands
> > find the best angle.
>
> That's what I was thinking.
>
> > I was able to accomplish the replacement WITHOUT
> > loosening the waterpump pulley or anything else
> > except the lower screwclamp on the other hose (the
> > narrower one that attaches to a metal pipe) and
> > rotating it out of the way...
>
> You mean the smaller, almost straight one coming from
> the small port on the water pump?
>
> > my hands are
> > relatively small but the job of removing the top
> > hose clamp AND replacing the bottom end of the hose
> > onto the nipple on the oil cooler was an ABSOLUTE
> > BITCH!
>
> Did you do it from above or below, with or without a
> lift?
> It seems I'm in an even worse scenario because the
> hose I want to replace is the one on the other oil
> cooler potr coming from the thermostat, which has even
> worse access restrictions...:-(
> Might have to remove the oil filter to gain access.
>
> > WHAT A BONEHEADED DESIGN! Both for the
> > vulnerability AND the amount of gymnastics required
> > to effect a replacement,
>
> AGREED!!!
> But why can't we cook-up a mod that will elliminate
> this stupid design (one of many others, e.g. the head
> gasket problem...)
> I guess all these boneheaded designs came from VW's
> decision to wrangle the aircooled engine into water
> cooled, resulting in LOTS of external hoses.
> Too bad they never offered a better motor (although
> now many aftermarket conversions are popular as well
> as an I4 from SA. I can't use those options as they're
> illegal here).
>
> >The reason the hose deteriorated over time is sort
> > of obvious: It's within about an inch of the exhaust
> > header with no shielding or protection from heat...
>
> Of course. So we need to cook-up a heat shield to
> avoid this in the future...
>
>
> =====
> Cheers, T-man.
>
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