Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:11:11 +0100
Reply-To: Clive Smith <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Clive Smith <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM>
Subject: Re: SURVEY - Tyre widths - mea culpa
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£186-70 for 4; they're also quiet on tarmac and quite grippy but not real go
get 'em off-road treads
KUMHO (Korea)
195 R15 1005 Powerguard AT (220.158 cm running cric calcualted - 3.76% on
195 14's)
1764 Lbs 44 PSI Max
Radial M+S Tubeless
Tread Steel 2 + Polyester 2 Sidewall Polyester 2 Plies
£186-70 for 4 on 06/04/2001 @
Direct Services and Tyres,
108 Harwoods Road,
Watford, WD18 7RL
UK
01923 246180
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed DeBolt" <eddebolt@softcom.net>
To: "Clive Smith" <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Re: SURVEY - Tyre widths - mea culpa
> Hi Clive
>
> how much did your kumho's cost? where did you get them?
>
> Ed
> Reno, NV
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clive Smith <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM>
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: SURVEY - Tyre widths - mea culpa
>
>
> >OK, I've heard enough, my flames were wrong.
> > I can see that on sand especially, 205's and wider are
> >going to be better. Of course the rally boys like narrower tyres for some
> >surfaces to avoid gravelplaning,
> >and maybe in snow or ice they can be better at cutting through to a good
> >surface.
> >There's probably a big difference between flying across surfaces where
you
> >want some sideloads
> >for steering and negotiating soft surfaces slowly.
> >
> >
> >P.S. My 195 15's are :
> >
> >KUMHO (Korea)
> >195 R15 1005 Powerguard AT
> >1764 Lbs 44 PSI Max
> >
> >Do you think they are rated sufficiently?
> >They were quite inexpensive and look strong with little apparent tyrewall
> >flex
> >I've driven the van at an AUW of about 2.5 tons and the steering got
> >heavier,
> >of course, but they didn't look like they were suffering.
> >
> >Clive
> >'88 Syncro
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "mark drillock" <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
> >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:59 AM
> >Subject: Re: SURVEY - I need a metal fab. project
> >
> >
> >> Clive, where are you finding 15" tires in 195 widths that have a
> >> sufficient load rating for Vanagon Campers?
> >>
> >> As for the quest for robust 205/70/14 tires here in NA, that is the
> >> stock original size many of our Vanagons came with.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> Clive Smith wrote:
> >> >
> >> > A kit to allow 15" x 6" wheels with 195 tyres to fit under the front,
> >like
> >> > where they should for better mass distribution.
> >> > I understand reading around that provided the tyres are not greater
> than
> >> > about 205 width , this can be done.
> >> >
> >> > On the same note I think its time for some FLAMES about large wide
tyre
> >> > sizes.
> >> > Seems a helluva lot of people looking for 205 tyres, why this
> >fascination
> >> > with a little bit of extra width and ridiculous width rims?
> >> >
> >> > If its for looks alone then I can't really argue, do your own thing.
> But
> >as
> >> > far as unsprung weight, suspension loads, smooth ride, shock absorber
> >loads
> >> > and performance, etc etc etc , all except maybe absolute roadholding
> >forces
> >> > on theoretically perfectly smooth roads I
> >> > have always found there is a happy medium and that all the points
> >mentioned
> >> > are rapidly degraded for zero nett gain in roadholding and
> >> > negative impact on handling, suspension wear etc. 15" and 16" wheels
> are
> >> > heavy enough (many alloys are no lighter than steels), without going
to
> >> > extreme widths as well. Think engineering, think mass and the
original
> >> > suspension design.
> >> >
> >> > OK FLAMES over, so I know my Kunho 15" 195's will fit under the front
> >with a
> >> > neat job done on the frame, and cross-wind handling will
> >> > be improved a little too, no rear tyre carrier and more room inside.
> >> >
> >> > Think about it chaps, aren't you all making a rod for your own backs
> >going
> >> > to 205's and larger?
> >> >
> >> > Clive
> >> > '88 Syncro Transporter
> >>
> >
>
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