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Date:         Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:04:26 -0600
Reply-To:     Ben McCafferty <ben@KBMC.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Ben McCafferty <ben@KBMC.NET>
Subject:      Re: morons (red coolant)
Comments: To: Mary Beth and Chris Geiser <geiser@EXECPC.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <001801c24abd$aec5d3f0$572dcfa9@MPC2002>
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I know I sound like a broken record, but the blue stuff is $14.80 per gallon at the dealer (I'm sure some dealers are higher, but overall), so there isn't much of a price difference to the orange juice--a couple of dollars. There certainly was a time when the blue stuff was $35/gallon, but that has changed. The orange juice (havoline) is also fine. I don't know anything about pink Autobahn for WBX engines--I believe that's for another VW engine, i.e. Golf or Jetta or something like that. I have had the dealer try to sell me the wrong stuff before. tx, bmc :) "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...."

> From: Mary Beth and Chris Geiser <geiser@EXECPC.COM> > Reply-To: Mary Beth and Chris Geiser <geiser@EXECPC.COM> > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:56:35 -0500 > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: morons (red coolant) > > That pink stuff (is that the same as red?) seemed to leak past all my > hose clamps in both my van and jetta when I had it in.... blue coolant, > no more leaks... > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf > Of Kenneth Wilford > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:56 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: morons (red coolant) > > Just FYI but not too long ago my sister needed some red coolant for her > '98 > Golf. I found a supplier for this red coolant which is what VW puts in > all > of the new Jettas/Golfs. It is supposed to be a lifetime coolant. I > have > it for $8 a 1.5 liter bottle (VW dealer wants $15 a bottle). It is > called > Pentosin. Anyone have an opinion on this stuff for use in the Vanagon? > It > is Phosphate and Silicate free. > > Thanks, > Ken Wilford > John 3:16 > http://www.vanagain.com > Phone: (856)-327-4936 > Fax: (856)-327-2242 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of The Old Volks Home > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 7:01 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: morons > > > At 11:42 AM 8/22/02 -0400, SpaceKommander wrote: >> He mentioned that you MUST use VW coolant as the sensors were > calibrated >> for it. He said even the Fuel Injection could be screwed up if I used >> something else for coolant. Coolant/water ratio was also imporant. >> Look, it's an extra $10.00 per gallon. How much do you use? An extra > $10 >> per year seems a good investment if it just might help solve some of my >> engine/cooling problems. >> He said the Vanagons in Germany did not have the head gasket problems > we >> did. Is it cooling related? Cooldown after highway related? Whatever. >> Trying to save $10 by buying green prestone or whatever seems like > nonsense. > ************************************ > I've been using Havoline Dex-Cool Phosphate-Free (the orange stuff) for > over 5 years now (flushed and replaced about 2 years ago when my GERMAN > water pump bearing gave up the ghost) without a single leak ANYWHERE. > It's > nice to be able to afford the extra $10 for the OE stuff (and you > probably > should use it as well), but the Dex-Cool is every bit as good as VW's > IMHO. > I've never had a sensor problem, either with the needle reading or the > LED, at least related to Dex-Cool, it's always been with a low coolant > reading or too little coolant verses the water ratio (remember, pre-mix > at > a 50-50 mix and you won't have problems with this). You don't fill a > Wasserboxer the way you do yer Chevy, like pouring in straight coolant > first, then water. My main factory VW mechanic set me straight by > telling > me to pre-mix it in 1 gallon jugs before pouring it in. Works for me > everytime. > > As per usual, I think the rep is blowin' smoke, but he's prolly tryin' > to > protect his backside as well. > > But stay away from the GREEN Prestone, it's not worth the $$$ you'll > spend > later on possible repairs. > > > JIm > 84 Westy 2.1 > "Ole Putt" > 68 Beetle > "Xavier" > 73 Ghia Coupe > "The Last Project" > jimt@oldvolkshome.com > jim96003@c-zone.net > *********** > **Need to find the right dizzy? > http://www.oldvolkshome.com/ignition.htm > OR > http://www.oldvolkshome.com/ovhignbo.htm > **Upgrade your 83.5-85 Vanagon to 2.1 > http://www.oldvolkshome.com/19to21.htm > *********** >


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