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Date:         Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:01:54 -0500
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dog Dog Dog
Comments: To: j_rodgers@CHARTER.NET
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Possibly after the bear eats your dog he'll be full and leave you alone for another day.

Stan Wilder

On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:48:29 -0500 John Rodgers <j_rodgers@CHARTER.NET> writes: > Meghan, you have been in Alaska long enough to be more sourdough than > cheechako, > right? And as such, surely you know how to tell when the touristers > from the > Lower 48 have been doing like Fish and Game have told them....."Wear > little > silver bells that tinkle so the bears can tell where you are!" > > Yep, silver bells in bear scats tells the story every time!! -[;<)> > > John Rodgers > 88 GL Driver > Formerly of the Kenai Peninsula > > > > Meghan Davis wrote: > > > There was a story up here really recently about a guy who got > attacked by a > > grizzly and the only thing that saved him was his German Shepherd, > who was > > also okay. Maybe it would be a good Idea to put bells on the dogs > like they > > tell people to wear. Usually a bear will try to leave people alone > and it's > > only when they are surprised that it becomes a problem. Usually. > Anyways, > > everybody I know has dogs and spends quite a bit of time in the > middle of > > nowhere and the dogs are fine. Where I commercial fish, bears > often come > > down the bank and all of us fisherpeople have dogs wandering. I've > never > > heard of anyone having a problem. No big thing. Megh > > > > >From: Harmon Seaver <hseaver@CYBERSHAMANIX.COM> > > >Reply-To: Harmon Seaver <hseaver@CYBERSHAMANIX.COM> > > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > >Subject: Re: dogs to alaska? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:07:14 -0500 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >Received: from mc2-f12.law16.hotmail.com ([65.54.237.19]) by > hotmail.com > > >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:19:55 > -0700 > > >Received: from gerry.vanagon.com ([66.95.48.130]) by > > >mc2-f12.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); > Tue, 3 Sep > > >2002 14:09:05 -0700 > > >Received: from gerry (gerry.vanagon.com) by gerry.vanagon.com > (LSMTP for > > >Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.FBAF22C3@gerry.vanagon.com>; > Tue, 3 Sep > > >2002 17:08:16 -0400 > > >Received: from GERRY.VANAGON.COM by GERRY.VANAGON.COM > (LISTSERV-TCP/IP > > >release 1.8d) with spool id 741180 for > vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; > > >Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:08:16 -0400 > > >Received: from cybershamanix.com > > >(adsl-64-108-120-47.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net) by > gerry.vanagon.com > > >(LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id > > ><0.FBAF22BE@gerry.vanagon.com>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:04:13 -0400 > > >Received: (from hseaver@localhost) by cybershamanix.com > (8.11.0/8.11.6) id > > > g83K7EN15941; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:07:14 -0500 > > >References: <8c.1d942f4f.2aa64e30@aol.com> > > ><20020903170352.GA15540@cybershamanix.com> > > ><044601c25389$5bc07640$319c4094@BILLPC> > > >User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i > > >Message-ID: <20020903200714.GB15890@cybershamanix.com> > > >Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> > > >Comments: To: Bill N <freeholder@STARBAND.NET> > > >In-Reply-To: <044601c25389$5bc07640$319c4094@BILLPC> > > >Return-Path: owner-vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2002 21:09:06.0030 (UTC) > > >FILETIME=[232B58E0:01C2538E] > > > > > >On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:34:47PM -0700, Bill N wrote: > > > > Dogs will keep black bears out of your camp, but grizzlies > will come in > > >just to kill and eat > > > > the dog. > > > > > > We had grizzlies around where we lived in BC, they never > seemed > > >interested > > >in our dogs, or our horses, goats, or chickens, for that matter. > And we > > >used to > > >see fresh griz track in the sandbars along the river right near > the > > >cabin. Personally I'd always prefer to have a dog along in bear > country. If > > >nothing else, the dog will keep the bear busy for while. I had a > friend who > > >survived a griz attack -- the griz came up at night while they > were > > >sleeping (no > > >tent, and just blankets and ground cloth) and grabbed my friend, > lifted him > > >off > > >the ground and started ripping at him. What saved him was the > blanket got > > >caught > > >in the bears teeth and went over his head and he dropped the guy > and stood > > >there > > >trying to get the blanket off his head, where upon my friend and > his wife > > >got > > >up in some trees. You should see the scars. > > > A dog would have alerted them a long time before the bear > got near. > > >And > > >probably scared the bear away -- > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Harmon Seaver > > >CyberShamanix > > >http://www.cybershamanix.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx >

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