Vanagon EuroVan
Previous messageNext messagePrevious in topicNext in topicPrevious by same authorNext by same authorPrevious page (September 2002, week 1)Back to main VANAGON pageJoin or leave VANAGON (or change settings)ReplyPost a new messageSearchProportional fontNon-proportional font
Date:         Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:58:25 -0700
Reply-To:     Jack <john.cook58@VERIZON.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jack <john.cook58@VERIZON.NET>
Subject:      Re: Dog Dog Dog
In-Reply-To:  <AIEFIGCNNANNIHLNFBPEIEHKGEAA.vanagon@volkswagen.org>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On a backpack into the eastern Sierras (California mountains) a few years ago, we has a large black bear make a sweep through our camp late one night. One of our group had 2 dogs in her tent. Both stayed nice & quiet including the dobermann. I was surprised, but I guess, the dogs were smarter than I gave them credit for.

//Jack

On 3 Sep 2002, at 21:28, David Marshall wrote:

> In this area they say leave your dog as home. Usually if a dog sees a bear, > it will run back to you for protection! :) > > David Marshall > > Fast Forward Automotive Inc. > 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road > Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 > > http://www.fastforward.ca mailto:sales@fastforward.ca > Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 > > - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions > - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and Importation > - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of Meghan Davis > Sent: September 3, 2002 4:48 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Dog Dog Dog > > > There was a story up here really recently about a guy who got attacked by a > grizzly and the only thing that saved him was his German Shepherd, who was > also okay. Maybe it would be a good Idea to put bells on the dogs like they > tell people to wear. Usually a bear will try to leave people alone and it's > only when they are surprised that it becomes a problem. Usually. Anyways, > everybody I know has dogs and spends quite a bit of time in the middle of > nowhere and the dogs are fine. Where I commercial fish, bears often come > down the bank and all of us fisherpeople have dogs wandering. I've never > heard of anyone having a problem. No big thing. Megh > > > >From: Harmon Seaver <hseaver@CYBERSHAMANIX.COM> > >Reply-To: Harmon Seaver <hseaver@CYBERSHAMANIX.COM> > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Re: dogs to alaska? > >Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:07:14 -0500 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from mc2-f12.law16.hotmail.com ([65.54.237.19]) by hotmail.com > >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:19:55 -0700 > >Received: from gerry.vanagon.com ([66.95.48.130]) by > >mc2-f12.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Tue, 3 Sep > >2002 14:09:05 -0700 > >Received: from gerry (gerry.vanagon.com) by gerry.vanagon.com (LSMTP for > >Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.FBAF22C3@gerry.vanagon.com>; Tue, 3 Sep > >2002 17:08:16 -0400 > >Received: from GERRY.VANAGON.COM by GERRY.VANAGON.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP > >release 1.8d) with spool id 741180 for vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; > >Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:08:16 -0400 > >Received: from cybershamanix.com > >(adsl-64-108-120-47.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net) by gerry.vanagon.com > >(LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id > ><0.FBAF22BE@gerry.vanagon.com>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:04:13 -0400 > >Received: (from hseaver@localhost) by cybershamanix.com (8.11.0/8.11.6) id > > g83K7EN15941; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:07:14 -0500 > >References: <8c.1d942f4f.2aa64e30@aol.com> > ><20020903170352.GA15540@cybershamanix.com> > ><044601c25389$5bc07640$319c4094@BILLPC> > >User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i > >Message-ID: <20020903200714.GB15890@cybershamanix.com> > >Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> > >Comments: To: Bill N <freeholder@STARBAND.NET> > >In-Reply-To: <044601c25389$5bc07640$319c4094@BILLPC> > >Return-Path: owner-vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2002 21:09:06.0030 (UTC) > >FILETIME=[232B58E0:01C2538E] > > > >On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:34:47PM -0700, Bill N wrote: > > > Dogs will keep black bears out of your camp, but grizzlies will come in > >just to kill and eat > > > the dog. > > > > We had grizzlies around where we lived in BC, they never seemed > >interested > >in our dogs, or our horses, goats, or chickens, for that matter. And we > >used to > >see fresh griz track in the sandbars along the river right near the > >cabin. Personally I'd always prefer to have a dog along in bear country. If > >nothing else, the dog will keep the bear busy for while. I had a friend who > >survived a griz attack -- the griz came up at night while they were > >sleeping (no > >tent, and just blankets and ground cloth) and grabbed my friend, lifted him > >off > >the ground and started ripping at him. What saved him was the blanket got > >caught > >in the bears teeth and went over his head and he dropped the guy and stood > >there > >trying to get the blanket off his head, where upon my friend and his wife > >got > >up in some trees. You should see the scars. > > A dog would have alerted them a long time before the bear got near. > >And > >probably scared the bear away -- > > > > > >-- > >Harmon Seaver > >CyberShamanix > >http://www.cybershamanix.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx


Back to: Top of message | Previous page | Main VANAGON page

Please note - During the past 17 years of operation, several gigabytes of Vanagon mail messages have been archived. Searching the entire collection will take up to five minutes to complete. Please be patient!


Return to the archives @ gerry.vanagon.com


The vanagon mailing list archives are copyright (c) 1994-2011, and may not be reproduced without the express written permission of the list administrators. Posting messages to this mailing list grants a license to the mailing list administrators to reproduce the message in a compilation, either printed or electronic. All compilations will be not-for-profit, with any excess proceeds going to the Vanagon mailing list.

Any profits from list compilations go exclusively towards the management and operation of the Vanagon mailing list and vanagon mailing list web site.