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Date:         Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:44:23 EDT
Reply-To:     BenTbtstr8@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Ben T <BenTbtstr8@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Selling on the list
Comments: To: msnichols@MINDSPRING.COM
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In a message dated 9/6/02 6:06:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, msnichols@MINDSPRING.COM writes:

<< It is best when sellers on the list post a sales price. >>

I agree with this totally. I have a small Classified section in my webpage. I only accept postings with price and locations unless it is a parting out ad.

<< For the newbies on buying on the list, take heed: a posted price is one where the seller is up front and not afraid of competition. As to the parts listed with no price? When you pmail for a price, you have already worked to get information. >>

Another good point.

<< Oh yes, as to shipping---Unless you want to pay Mailboxes Inc double the UPS rate to ship UPS, plus a boxing/packing fee, tell your seller or buyer who pays what and from which shipper---FedEX, UPS, or USPS. If you ship UPS or FedEx, never go to Mailboxes Inc. They double UPS rates! Use the Customer Counter at UPS or FedEx. I received a large pkg. from Victoria B.C. that cost US$8.00 via Canada Post. But, the same item shipped from Pa. would be $16.00. Why? >>

This is sometimes a question of logistics. I once bought some stuff from a fellow who had to drive to a customer counter which was 45 miles away. Mail Boxes etc. was a few blocks away from him. Another example: My UPS counter only opens until 5pm. My Office Depot UPS counter is open until 9pm. They charge the same as the UPS counter anyway. Ask your seller first. When I sell stuff on ebay, it will say exactly what the shipping terms are including the type of service I will use. It eliminates misunderstandings.

<< Because the seller also wanted to get paid for putting the item in a box. This is a sore point with me---it is like paying to park at or enter a Yard Sale. >>

I can understand your frustration with this in some situations. However, in some cases, the seller has no choice but to do this. For instance, I sold some wheels which had to be shipped. It required 2 large boxes plus a ton of packing material. I made it very clear in my auction that I needed the extra cash to use for supplies. They did not have to buy if they did not like the terms which was in predisclosed. I changed $5 for each box. They actually cost me $5 plus tax. So about $5.45. Plus I used a whole roll of tape which was about $3. Packing peanuts I get for free. Plastic bubble wrap I get for free. My labor they get for free. I've done this on ebay and on the list hundreds of times. I have hundreds of positive feedbacks. Zero negative or neutral.

My point is there are reasonable charges and there are rip-off charges. You need to clarify your position and the seller's ahead of time. Happy trading.

BenT <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/bentbtstr8/myhomepage/index.html">Vanagon Cafe</A>


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