Vanagon EuroVan
Previous messageNext messagePrevious in topicNext in topicPrevious by same authorNext by same authorPrevious page (September 2002, week 2)Back to main VANAGON pageJoin or leave VANAGON (or change settings)ReplyPost a new messageSearchProportional fontNon-proportional font
Date:         Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:24:07 +0100
Reply-To:     jbrush@AROS.NET
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         John Brush <jbrush@AROS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Z-bed  installation instructions
Comments: To: TinkerMan <tinkerman007@YAHOO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <20020909194702.54184.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com>

Just some ramblings about the Z Bed, from one warped perspective.

I would often go to the zproducts.com site and dream about having copius amounts of money to spend on kewl stuff, but I always turn away. That is just way too much money for what it is. Way too much.

Mine is just a plain-jane vanagon, and at first I didn't realize that I would have to remove the middle seat in order to use the Z bed. Once I noticed that detail, the Z bed is no longer a consideration since I use the van for more than just camping in it, and I didn't want to give up the middle seat to use it. (heavy little sob!)

How frustrating to find that a queen size mattress is about 8 inches too long to use with any setup when the middle seat is installed.... :(

I never thought about the bed-in-the-box concept. It sounds like a nice idea, but I would be surprised to learn that the top could fold out far enough without hitting the roof on the way. In addition, my back seat doesn't fold down flat, and would push up on the bed. Might not matter with weight on it tho.

Then I tinkered with just building a frame on the engine compartment that would raise it up level with the seat back folded down. Not only won't this work for me because the back doesn't lay flat, but its a really short bed :-)

Since I usually camp in a trailer or tent with the kids, I only camp with the van now and again when I go by myself, so my solution is a little more complex, but in truth, it doesn't take very long.

I just remove the rear seat back to make the area level. At first I tried to remove the back, with with the seat itself in place, and although I did it, I needed a vacation just from that effort! :) There are only two bolts holding the seat bottom in place, easily accessible, so I remove them, pull the seat bottom forward just a bit, and then it takes less than ten minutes to remove the seat back.

I did learn that if there is a lot of stuff under the seat, it only takes a few minutes to take it all out first, rather than end up hurling it across the garage in frustration because I tried to get away without removing it :-)

I was going to just use an air mattress, but I have not found one that is short enough. They are all "standard" queen size. One day, I had an inspiration, and found that the mattress from my couch bed is queen sized in width, but a little short in length. In fact, it is a perfect fit between the rear hatch, and the back of the middle seat. It hangs over the seat bottom just a little, but its no big thing. I am six foot tall, so its not perfect if you lay straight front-to-back, but a little sideways allows me to stretch out okay.

If I need room, I could pull the middle seat, but it doesn't have to come out if I don't want to. It is sure heavy, so I usually leave it in. Plus, I have the porta-potti strapped to it just behind the driver's seat, so I live with that.

I slide the passenger seat out and turn it around, close the curtains, and I have a decent seat and a nice bed, that works fine for me. Of course it would be nice to have a weekender, or a westy, or heck, even a few window screens, but life doesn't always work out the way it should, right? :)

All together, it takes less than half an hour to get the van ready for a trip just for me. I don't think that is too bad. When I think its a hassle, I just look at the neighbor's minivan, and I know they couldn't do that, so I feel better. <g>

Just one way of doing things.

Regards,

John


Back to: Top of message | Previous page | Main VANAGON page

Please note - During the past 17 years of operation, several gigabytes of Vanagon mail messages have been archived. Searching the entire collection will take up to five minutes to complete. Please be patient!


Return to the archives @ gerry.vanagon.com


The vanagon mailing list archives are copyright (c) 1994-2011, and may not be reproduced without the express written permission of the list administrators. Posting messages to this mailing list grants a license to the mailing list administrators to reproduce the message in a compilation, either printed or electronic. All compilations will be not-for-profit, with any excess proceeds going to the Vanagon mailing list.

Any profits from list compilations go exclusively towards the management and operation of the Vanagon mailing list and vanagon mailing list web site.