Date:         Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:30:09 -0700
Reply-To:     Jack <john.cook58@VERIZON.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jack <john.cook58@VERIZON.NET>
Subject:      Re: New Starter Stopped Working requires the RI wizard
Comments: To: Noel Cookson <ncookson@NETWORKUSA.NET>
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Q:  Do you hear the solenoid clicking?

Try whacking the solenoid while the key is turned to start (I'd yank the
coil wire first).  If that energizes the solenoid & the starter turns,
then the starter itself is ok.  Either the voltage drop is excessive or
the solenoid has gone south.  My gut feel is that the voltage drop is
excessive but more experienced members may disagree.

Another test would be to momentarily jumper the starter terminal to the
solenoid.  If that works, I'd start tracking down the cause of the voltage
drop to see if you can reduce it.

//Jack



On 11 Sep 2002, at 11:54, Noel Cookson wrote:

> I have 12 volts at the starter. The lower voltage I mentioned was measured
> at the  solenoid on the starter. This voltage passes through the ignition
> switch and smaller wires than those found on the starter, hence the voltage
> drop.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gary hradek" <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:22 AM
> Subject: New Starter Stopped Working requires the RI wizard
>
>
> > Noel,
> >     I may be off base here but I think you need 12
> > volts to the starter.   If we can get some input from
> > our wizard in RI I think he can better explain the
> > actual voltage needed.   Should check your grounds as
> > there are several and your battery and alternator
> > output.   gary
> >
> > Date:    Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:02:59 -0500
> > From:    Noel Cookson <ncookson@NETWORKUSA.NET>
> > Subject: New Starter Stopped Working
> >
> > Hi listees. Questions about starter motors. I just put
> > in a new starter
> > that
> > stopped working after only 6 days of use.
> >
> > Before pulling the new starter I checked the voltage
> > at the solenoid.
> > There
> > were between 8.5 and 9 volts there. My understanding
> > is the voltage
> > should
> > be at least 8 volts. So the 8.5 to 9 volts should be
> > okay.
> >
> > Next I pulled the starter and gave it a visual
> > inspection. One thing I
> > noticed is the shaft coming out of the starter can be
> > moved in and out
> > and
> > up and down. This surprised me I thought there would
> > be no such play.
> > What
> > do you  think of this? Should I send the starter back
> > and get a new
> > one?
> >
> > Lastly,  I visually inspected the bushing in the bell
> > housing. My
> > mechanic
> > says they are okay as long as they are round, not
> > oblong. Mine was
> > round so
> > I did not replace the bushing. Does everyone agrees
> > with this approach?
> >
> > FYI, I wired up the starter while it was out and it
> > spun just fine.
> > When I
> > put the starter back in it continued to work.
> >
> >
> > Noel '88 GL tiico
> >
> >
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