Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 03:44:35 -0700
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From: Tromper <evilpig@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Re: Alternate fuels
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Indeed I have debated the very thing.
Two points.
A. In some respects, though not all centralized pollution is easier
to deal with using scrubbers and such.
B. You presuppose that you must use one of those items to generate the
electricity. Solar arrays can be used to generate heat, and via that
electricity. Wind of course, and Hydro, though those rely on weather so
to some extent are unreliable, though storing the excess energy in the
form of hydrogen and oxygen would ameliorate that a bit. Finally there
is producing hydrogen from carbohydrate sources, including the fellow
who's doing it with sugar and a catalyst. This method has some potential
to cause an interesting conflict between food and fuel.
Please further thoughts, or debate of this are welcome in public forum.
To a greater or lesser extent I merely play devils advocate to see what
other folks think, and know.
Tromper
"Curiosity Kills more Mice then Cats."
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill N [mailto:freeholder@starband.net]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:49 PM
To: Tromper
Subject: Re: Alternate fuels
Just some thoughts on Hydrogen...
It is very clean when you burn it in the engine, but has to be produced.
This is normally done
by splitting the water molecule using electricity. The electricity is
generated using coal, or
oil, or nuclear power. Hydrogen merely moves the polution from the vehicle
engine to the power
plant with no net help to the environment.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tromper" <evilpig@MINDSPRING.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:05 PM
Subject: Alternate fuels
>
> Hi Volks,
>
>
> Just a mild thought to pass on the engineers 'round here.
>
> Barring all infrastructure/current availability et al, what would it take
to
> swap an internal combustion/gas motor over to internal
combustion/hydrogen??
>
> The swap to methanol is pretty straight forward, esp for those running the
> inlines
> since I know that Brazil produces them side by side with the gas (I think
> that's
> why the Brazilian produced VW Fox digifant motors come with a lower
> compression
> head)
>
> Then of course we've been the rounds on biodiesel a couple times..does
that
> do
> OK in a TDI or not??
>
>
> JT
>
> "Curiosity Kills more Mice then Cats."
>
>
