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Date:         Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:14:46 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Hurlbut <timothy@VERIO.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Tim Hurlbut <timothy@VERIO.NET>
Subject:      Re: Political eruption, Bulley Style; was Vanagons for Peace
Comments: To: "G. Matthew Bulley" <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
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Please keep political comments off this list. Your errant comments don't belong here.

Tim Hurlbut 87 & 90 Vanagon

> -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of G. Matthew Bulley > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 8:59 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Political eruption, Bulley Style; was Vanagons for Peace > > > In the final analysis, there is only one reason for the Administration's > fixation with Iraq. Insurance on the flow of cheap oil. > > There would be no such thing as "terrorist attacks on the US" if we > weren't trying to force our beloved democracy down the throat of every > nation where there is a natural resource we want to keep cheap. > > Middle Eastern terrorists aren't inflamed for "no particular reason"... > it is because the US is bound and determined to shape policy and > governance in the Middle East so we can keep our cheap oil. Wouldn't you > be peeved if, for example, Brazil was militarily forcing its political > will in the US? Wouldn't you be tempted to take some wacky action to > hurt Brazil? Duh. Why don't Americans get this? > > If the US weren't addicted to cheap oil, if we could bear $8 gallon > gasoline because we had walkable towns, and fast trains, Saddam Hussein > would be just another corrupt, power-hungry dictator, preparing for war > on his neighbors, and we'd read about it in the papers. Other countries > with better land use and smarter transportation systems don't want to > get involved in Dubya's "war", because they don't rely as heavily on > cheap oil. They don't have a dog in the fight, and consequently they'd > rather read about it in the paper. > > Since we Americans demand fresh salad greens in January from 3,000 miles > away, and we love Wal*Mart, whose scam on America is completely reliant > on cheap oil to get those cut-rate drills and chintzy sweaters from > China to the crappy grey box near you, our kids will die to keep our oil > cheap. And you thought that little yellow smiley was fueling the cheaper > prices. Watch what happens to Wal*Mart when fuel prices do spike, (and > they will eventually). > > Bottom line: we're the one's with the addiction. We're the one's who > should have to pay the price, or should have to develop better land use > policies, and transportation options that cut our per capita oil > consumption 85%. That would put our oil consumption on par with most > other countries in the world. Or we can keep asking for plums in > February for $.89 a pound at Wal*Mart, and raise an extra kid or two to > send to Dubya's perpetual war for cheap oil. Reality. > > Developing business and guiding change since 1996, > > G. Matthew Bulley > Bulley-Hewlett > Business: www.bulley-hewlett.com > AIM = IExplain4u > Phone: +1.919.658.1278 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf > Of Andy Mahler > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 1:03 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Vanagons for Peace > > friends > this is the first item I have posted to this list > (other than a request for help from my Wolfy-driving cousin who was > passing > through) > My wife and I have three Vanagons, all Westys, two '84s and an '88 > We got our first Vanagon in 1991, the same year I helped organize > what has since grown into an eighteen state regional cooperative network > of local, grassroots forest protection organizations called Heartwood. > > I mention this because my wife and I have spent a lot of time in our > vanagons > in every one of those states, hooking up with the good, caring, > hard-working local folks who > sometimes alone, and sometimes with a handful of friends, > organized among their neighbors > to stop the careless and wanton destruction of the remnant hardwood > forests > of the East, Midwest, and South (heartland + hardwood = Heartwood). > Our Vanagons have taken us down some windy-ass driveways in the Ozarks > and the Appalachians, from Mississippi to Minnesota, and from Missouri > to > Maryland, > from the mean streets of big cities to the most rugged and remote rural > areas, > the Vanagon has proven itself, time and again, the most useful beast in > the > barnyard. > > We always had a place to sleep, even when broken down by the road in the > middle of nowhere--- > and when you're in this line of work, the great thing is you're never > more > than a couple of hours > from someone who will come get you, help get your vehicle back on the > road, > feed you a great meal, > and set you up in a beautiful place for the night-- and, the next day > they > take you to the most beautiful forest, or a wild free-flowing river, or > some other sweet precious spot that gives them solace and strength in a > crazy old world. > > I am on a lot of lists, none of which get as much traffic as this one > I am beginning to recognize names and personalities > and wish to say > thank you for the generosity in sharing wisdom and experience and spare > parts > for good advice and good laughs > for your devotion to these contraptions and their many admirable > qualities > and of course their idiosyncrasies > long life to them all, and to you > > I don't spend as much time on the road as i used to > spending more and more at this computer > in the woods here in southern Indiana > > I'm going to go on digest mode for a while (too much to read as it is) > but I wanted to post this message before I do > > and now, to the point > > to me the Vanagon is not just a conveyance > it is a political tool > > a remarkable utilitarian expression of personal transportation and > self-sufficiency > > (those who do not wish to read a political opinion are advised to > discontinue reading now) > > Times are getting tough and people are carrying a lot of stress > The political situation is getting ugly and the bill of rights is > getting > constricted and eroded > > I may bring down coyote's wrath, but I just have to ask > > Won't you all please take some action, small or large, soon, > > > TO STOP THIS INSANE WAR!!! > > > > > > > Thanks for listening > thanks for caring > thanks for whatever you choose to do > > and thanks to TomC and Coyote for moderation > > peace > > @ > andy


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