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Date:         Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:57:25 -0400
Reply-To:     Vanagon man <vgonman@MSN.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Vanagon man <vgonman@MSN.COM>
Subject:      Re: 80 d Thermostat rocks
Comments: To: Marla Stelk <mjstelk@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Keep driving it in that condition and all will really go on that van...................then it will really cost some $$ to fix or sell for hardly anything :((

Adam P 81 Westy "The Brick " 70 Single Cab "Whitey" 74 Beetle "Ol Yeller" 73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop) 1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg 75 Campmobile "for sale' Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marla Stelk" <mjstelk@HOTMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: Re: 80 d Thermostat rocks

> I found the gunk in the right tank, the refill tank. Since I cleaned it out > I haven't noticed anymore in there. So I did my trip up to Maine. Managed > to find the Busses by the Buoy group and when I opened my engine capartment, > discovered oil blowing back into it - not sure if its tranny fluid or what. > Dennis, a VW mechanic from Long Island thought it might be tranny fluid > becuase I was way down, but I also have a slow leak and hadn't filled it in > a while (my bad) so could be or not. Filled it up and it hasn't gone down > much since. But noticed a leak coming from a hose or pipe in the area > behind the air filter - just beyond where the engine cover ends toward the > front of the van. Now its having trouble going from 2nd gear into 3rd (auto > trans.). So I dropped it off at the AAA garage in Portland and the mechanic > is cleaning it out this morning so he can put some dye into it and find out > where the leak is. Possible brake fluid? Any thoughts? Since filled, the > coolant level is still slowly going down in the expansion tank, but not the > refill tank. The tranny level since filled has stayed full. The engine oil > level has stayed full too, although I have seen some oil dripping from the > oil pressure relief valve. Maybe it is the oil cooler....I just had a > mechanic do a coolant pressure test, didn't find any leaks. Also had him do > a vacuum test - found one leak by the fuel PSI and replaced a collapsed > hose. Seems like everything is going on this van. PO didn't take too good > of care of him unfortunately. > > Thanks in advance, > Marla > '87 Westy Van "Morrison" > > > >From: "Joel Walker" <jwalker17@earthlink.net> > >Reply-To: "Joel Walker" <jwalker17@earthlink.net> > >To: "Marla Stelk" <mjstelk@HOTMAIL.COM> > >Subject: Re: Re: 80 d Thermostat rocks > >Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:50:24 -0500 > > > >Okay - wow - so when I got the van I noticed that the > >coolant refill tank had black gunk in it. Showed it to > >the mechanic and they told me not to worry about it. > >And now the last mechanic (a good guy but not a VW > >specialist) said it had a "funny smell" but didn't > >think he was qualified to diagnose it. So now I'm > >thinking from what everyone has said that it IS a head > >gasket problem. ARG. > > > >not necessarily .... black gunk in the coolant tank > >might be oil. but WHICH tank? the leftmost or the > >rightmost? if in the rightmost (behind the license > >plate; and NOT in the leftmost), it could just be crud > >that accumulated somehow. but if you see a blackish > >ring of stuff (like a bathtub ring) in the LEFT tank, > >now you've got problems. :( > > > >and the problem MIGHT be a leaking oil cooler. this is > >the silver box on top of the oil filter .. it has > >coolant coming into the box and, since the oil is > >hotter than the coolant, taking some of the heat of the > >oil out with it. trouble is, those boxes can start > >leaking internally ... and when that happens, you'll > >get two things: oil in the coolant, and coolant in the > >oil. both are very bad. :( > > > >during one of those episodes. I've got to drive to > >Maine tomorrow - am I going to do serious damage > >driving it on the highway with a slow leak? Or should > >I just stop a lot and check the coolant level? The > >hose from the refill tank to the expansion tank is > >brand new so that can't be it. I'll swing by the > >mechanic or by NAPA today to get the tool to do the > >pressure test. > > > >if it's the right tank and NOT any sign of crud in the > >left tank, i'd just go and stop every hour or so and > >check the fluids, including the engine oil. take some > >spare fluids with you, especially the coolant and a > >gallon or so of water in some sort of container. take > >some engine oil with you as well. how far are you gonna > >drive? if more than 100 miles one-way, and you are > >really worried about the bus, i'd suggest trying to > >take some other vehicle if you could. :( > > > >good luck! > >joel > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx >


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