Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:23:40 -0400
Reply-To: Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@USA.DUPONT.COM>
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From: Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@USA.DUPONT.COM>
Subject: Re: Saga of the missing oil was Re: Dipstick readability tip
(getting kindalong)
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IF they put a light viscosity oil in there, your lifters could have
collapsed. I experienced a similar problem on my old engine after trying
some CD-2 oil additive. After some high speed driving, the oil would thin
out to the point where the engine would just lose power. Lifters were
rattling. After cooling off over night it would be fine again. After an
oil change, it never did it again. If they put 10-30 in there, it could of
burned some of it, too. They may have shorted you a quart or two from the
start.
Jay
Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@MTS.NET>@gerry.vanagon.com> on 09/26/2002 01:05:34 AM
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Subject: Saga of the missing oil was Re: Dipstick readability tip
(getting kinda long)
Well, I was going to wait for the Friday Funnies for this mystery but since
it came up today I might as well get a head start. I should mention that
I've always had trouble reading the dipstick - higher on top, lower on the
bottom, the whole thing seems to be wet, etc. Could be part of my problem
here but who knows.
So I'm taking my 85 Westfalia GL from Winnipeg to Vancouver to San
Francisco
this summer and back. 250k kilometres on the original motor and automatic
transmission. No oil leaks or burning oil or anything like that. Getting
pretty low on power but hey I'm not in a hurry.
I take it to one of the few VW dealers in Vancouver who would look at the
van without an appointment. Some were downright ornery about the whole
thing. I'm off to San Fran with fresh oil and everything seems to be fine.
Checked the oil every two fills and never needed to add (unless I'm reading
it wrong, but I don't think so).
Coming home near Glacier Nat. Park in Montana the motor starts rattling and
I lose power. The next 3 hours I'm going up hills at 5 mph until I hit
Alberta where things flatten out and I can putt along at 70km/h. It
sounded
like an exhaust rattle which made sense to me because I knocked it around a
bit on some particularly nasty potholes on Vancouver Island. Wasn't sure
why it would cause me to lose power though.
So I make it to the VW dealer in Lethbridge Alberta where they tell me I
was
down about three or four litres of oil! How about that. The oil warning
light never came on, although it lights up when starting the motor so I
guess the sender must be toast. They assumed I had some sort of
catastrophic leak so I pick up four litres of 20/50 at Canadian Tire and
stop every 20 minutes on the way home. Even decided to bypass Ikea in
Calgary it was so serious. So I drive 1600 km home from Calgary, and the
oil level on the dipstick never dropped. I still haven't had to add any
oil.
Where did my oil go? I have to admit I didn't check it from San Fran to
Montana where I lost power. The van seems to be running fine now - still
sluggish but not consuming any oil. How much damage did I do? I didn't
realise you run out of power when you run out of oil. Obviously I'm not
the
most mechanically inclined guy out there but I'm pretty conscientious about
maintenance and I feel like a big idiot for running out of oil. Anything
in
particular I should do now or just start saving for the new motor? This
one
sure didn't owe me anything with that many miles and one head failure
repaired at 80k km, but I would like to squeeze another few miles out of it
if possible.
Darn.
Jeff
85 Westfalia
Winnipeg
> At 11:08 AM 9/25/2002, Chuck Hill wrote:
> >Drilling a tiny hole in the dipstick at the marks makes it very easy to
> >read the oil level.
> >
> >Chuck Hill
>
> Do you have trouble with false high readings? I often find that the
> reading on one side of the stick is much lower than the other side...
>
> david
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