Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:32:41 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hundt <dhundt@PCEZ.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Don Hundt <dhundt@PCEZ.COM>
Subject: Re: 90+ Fox engine @ 54 degrees
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I have a jh engine from an 83 gti in my van, early rabbit intake, fox 4 into
1 exhaust mainfold. I didn't have to cut a thing, I did have to massage the
side of the engine compartment a bit with a 3 lb. sledge. Pretty simple task
altogether. Routing the plumbing from the airbox to the intake was a bit of
a chore, but it turned out pretty clean and trouble free.
Don
82 diesel to gti
Portland, Or.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Marshall" <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: 90+ Fox engine @ 54 degrees
> I'll follow up on a few points that have been mentioned about the Fox
motor.
>
> It is more than the exhaust manifold that makes the low 81hp output of
these
> motor. The compression ratio is 8.5:1 and the valve sizes are 33mm and
> 38mm. For comparison the JH motor found in the Cabriolet and Scirocco is
> 90hp - bigger 40mm intake valves and a little more aggressive initial
> timing. In Europe this makes 95hp as they have a dual outlet manifold
> attached to it. The Digifant II Jetta / Golf RV engine makes 102hp as it
is
> 10:1 compression ratio and has the 33/40mm valves - the PF motor is 100%
> identical with the exception of a dual outlet manifold and a total of
105hp.
>
> Unless you install a Canadian 1.8L Golf III CL head and intake manifold
you
> will have to cut your frame to make it fit - the early rabbit intake
> manifolds require the least amount of cutting but it is a real PITA to
make
> the intake system for this as it points the throttle valve to the front of
> the vehicle.
>
> Another thing is to make sure your hydraulic lifters are in excellent
shape
> as they tend to fail when laid over at 50 degrees. Vibration can be an
> issue at 50 degrees especially if you use the older style Diesel hardware.
>
> If you use a 15 degree mounting system you will not have to cut the frame
on
> your van. You will not have premature lifter failure. No vibrations and
a
> simpler exhaust system. The trade off is you have to make a box on your
> engine cover to make it fit - no real big deal even if you have a bed back
> there as you can get hinges that lift the seat when it is in the bed
> position so everything fits.
>
> Just my $0.02 worth!
>
> David Marshall
>
> Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
> 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road
> Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of john Runberg
> Sent: September 24, 2002 7:21 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: 90+ Fox engine @ 54 degrees
>
>
> Has anyone installed a 1990 or newer Fox engine into Vanagon using the
> diesel mounts? Did you have to bang the sheet metal to clear the intake? I
> have a line on a 90 Fox with new engine and bad tranny for a real good
> price...
>
> john
>
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