Date:         Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:02:53 -0400
Reply-To:     Vanagon man <vgonman@MSN.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Vanagon man <vgonman@MSN.COM>
Subject:      Re: More Info on Copper Core German Radiators
Comments: To: SStones <sstones@IDIRECT.COM>
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Please stop this thread.

I run into this type of ranting all the time when working on VW's.  Bash the
fellow that actually pulls wrenches for a living (Ken Wilford) with some
sort of engineering pinhead mumbo-jumbo.  Anyone that has dealt with him
knows him to be a straight shooter.......


Adam P
81  Westy "The Brick "
70 Single Cab "Whitey"
74 Beetle "Ol Yeller"
73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop)
1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
75 Campmobile "for sale'
Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled)
----- Original Message -----
From: "SStones" <sstones@IDIRECT.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: More Info on Copper Core German Radiators


> Just...  Uhhh...  To throw in 2 more cents worth...
> Wilfy was presuming that two cylindrical copper pipes would be better than
> a single oval cross sectional aluminum pipe. Based on the heat
conductivity
> of copper over aluminum and the increased surface that's obvious when two
> circles are compared to a single oval of the same area it is very easy to
> presume exactly what Ken did. Obviously Ken's not stupid. I'm not going to
> do the math for you either, but I'll estimate the copper as a little less
> than three times as efficient at heat transfer based on my vague memory of
> the description.
> If you have difficulty assuming that more heat transfer can occur across a
> greater surface area, or don't understand the geometry involved even
> basically, please either trust Ken's advice, he seems to presume things
> well, or never work on your own vanagon. They're odd beasts and can suffer
> nasty consequences if stupid things are done to them.
> Rant mode off.
>