Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 15:08:44 -0500
Reply-To: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Porsche's SUV
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I go off road at several Texas lakes and in some rough terrain in hunting
seasons.
The hunters usually take somebody's old Dodge Ramcharger with spray can
camouflage finish out on their jaunts.
As far as rough terrain at the lakes I see mostly older pickup trucks and
I've never seen anything newer than about 1990 going off road.
I had a 1975 Land Cruiser in 1975-79 and I spent a fair amount of my free
time dragging out CJ-5s and CJ-7s that couldn't cut the mustard in the
outback.
I would seriously doubt the manufacturers claims about off-roading
ability of any SUV other than the Land Rover.
The over the road version of the Humvee certainly couldn't cut it.
The real off roading vehicles I see belong to the utility companies and
range from all wheel drive Suburbans to all wheel drive Doolies or the
all wheel drive units used by Customs and Border Patrol. One must
consider that the real off road vehicles are fairly abrasive in the ride
comfort area ........... my 'going to war' version of the Land Cruiser
nearly beat me to death and got very poor fuel economy.
Stan Wilder
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 12:16:18 -0700 Leon Korkin <korkwood@WSHOST.NET>
writes:
> John,
> You will NEVER see those SUVs on Moab trails.
> All this great engineering and offroad capability just to carry
> soccer mom to local mall.
> Like using supercomputer for e-mail only.
> Are you sure you want to drive one in Moab? One drive may result in
> very expensive
> repairs...Vanagons can sustain some body damages without loosing
> much value...
> Leon
> 85 Subwagen Westy
>
> 10/6/02 11:12:30 AM, John Wessels <EUROMOG@AOL.COM> wrote:
>
> >In a message dated 10/6/02 9:29:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> >DBAKER5@KC.RR.COM writes:
> >
> ><< There's what the world needs -- a 5,000 lb 450 hp ute that runs
> 168 mph.
> > Wonder how many people it's going to kill....
> >
> > Dave in KC >>
> >
> >A lot less than VW Vanagons ever did. I sure wish you people with a
> jealousy
> >complex would get off the anti SUV rhetoric. Your Vanagon puts out
> more
> >pollution, uses more gas and is far less safe than most SUV's on
> the road. I
> >have a Syncro and love it. Yet I don't admonish people who choose a
> vehicle
> >to their liking. I agree it's ugly but you have to give Porsche and
> VW credit
> >for engineering such a phenomenal vehicle. It is going to set a new
> standard.
> >I wish they would loan me one to test drive on the trails of
> Moab.......
> >
> >Had way too much coffee this morning. I need to go drive my Syncro
> on some
> >rough terrain.
> >
> >John Wessels '87 SyncroMog
> >European Motorsport
> >Livermore, CA 94551
> >http://www.euromog.com
> >
> >
>
>
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