Date:         Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:01:40 -1000
Reply-To:     Ed Sato <edsato@JUNO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Ed Sato <edsato@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Air in the system
Comments: To: hradek@yahoo.com
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If you run the car previously with the heater on most of the air should
be trapped in the highest point the radiator. If you do it once and feel
that there still is air do it again. This is so easy you can do it
everyday if you want once you have the IV contraption. Aloha, Ed


On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:54:26 -0700 (PDT) gary hradek <hradek@yahoo.com>
writes:
> Ed,
>    I like the idea of doing the bleed with the engine
> cold but not sure if it will work in all conditions.
> How would it deal with trapped air in the heater?
>                 gary
>
> --- Ed Sato <edsato@juno.com> wrote:
> > I don't know if anyone remembers this but awhile
> > back I posted a solution
> > to filling the radiator from the bleeder hole with
> > the engine cold. You
> > use a plastic juice jug and a 3 feet length of
> > aquarium air line.
> > Puncture the bottom of the juice jug so the hole
> > will fit the air line
> > snugly. Put the other end in the radiator bleed
> > hole. Fill the jug with
> > premix fluid and fill till fluid comes out the bleed
> > hole. You won't
> > believe how fast and easy this method is. It is also
> > fool proof. Hope
> > everyone gets it this time. Aloha, Ed Sato
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:12:12 -0700 gary hradek
> > <hradek@M> writes:
> > > Larry,
> > >      Yes the thermostat needs to be open to bleed
> > the
> > > radiator.   You could perhaps bleed air from the
> > > engine without having the thermostat open but you
> > get
> > > too little flow to the radiator if the thermostat
> > is
> > > closed.   At idle, 1k it will take about ten
> > minutes
> > > before the thermostat will open.   Takes less time
> > at
> > > 2k and even less at 3k.   Does not matter what
> > speed
> > > just as long as the two big hoses up front get
> > good
> > > and hot.   gary
> > >
> > >
> > > Date:    Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:42:46 -0400
> > > From:    Lawrence Johnson
> > > <larry_avery.johnson@SYMPATICO.CA>
> > > Subject: Re: Air in the system
> > >
> > > Jay
> > > The thermostat does not need to open because there
> > is
> > > a small bypass
> > > valve built
> > > into the thermostat that allows enough flow for
> > > bleeding purposes. Use
> > > a brick
> > > or a stick to hold the throttle pedal for 3000
> > rpm.
> > > Alternatively use a
> > > cloths
> > > peg at the throttle cable connection in the engine
> > > compartment. Better
> > > still,
> > > get a helper.
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > Jay L Snyder wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, you should at least wait until the
> > thermostat
> > > opens!  FAST is a
> > > > relative term when dealing with Vanagons.
> > Besides,
> > > I can't reach the
> > > > throttle from the bleed bolt!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >        Jay
> > >
> > >
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