Hello I've used these tires two winters ago on my old 89 Syncro Westy mounted on 14" VW alloys (6"). These are fabulous on snow, without studs. They are probably great on ice too with studs. As it was I did not have them studded and did spin out - yes with a syncro. It was that reflex to slam on the brakes when other idiots are spinning out of control and heading for you and your van loaded with your prise posessions - your kids. I did a 180 without even realizing what or where the van was going. I was going maybe 20 miles an hour and a big patch of black ice caused havac. Everything turned out OK and no one was hit or hurt but it defused my confidence of invincibility with 4 Nokkias on a Syncro. I am looking to get 4 new ones on my current (newer) 89 Syncro Westy for the trips to the ski areas here in upstate New York. I can get these tires here in Rochester for $100 + mount / balance and the usual wheel allignment. Think Snow! Joel 89 Syncro Westy Robert Freeman <rdfreeman@MSN.COM> wrote: I am having the local Nokian dealer order some studded winter tires for my Westy that are not available in the US. They are the Hakkapellita C2, an 8-ply rating commercial light truck tire in size 185/R14. They are about an 82 series so are 25.6" tall. You can see them at http://www.nokiantires.com/indexen.html. Look in product line, passenger, winter, C2. I think they will be a great snow tire. If you've looked, you know that there are not many snow tires that will fit a vanagon and also have suitable load rating. If you want some, contact my local guy Dennis at Kirkland tire 425-822-8251. He doesn't have email. They are about $136 + shipping each by the way, incl studs. No connection to seller other than he is willing to order them for us. If you want some, contact him soon so he can order them all together and save us all some freight. Delivery 5-6 weeks.
Bob Freeman
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