Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 23:37:03 +0100
Reply-To: Clive Smith <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM>
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From: Clive Smith <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM>
Subject: Re: FW: Increasing horsepower - Long -Boring
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Ok!
Provided the block is stiff, core engine components strong, detonation
margins wide enough (with or without knock sensors) and cooling sufficient,
yarda yarda yarda and the turbo installation well specified and executed
(rather than an afterthought) there should be no problem with long term
engine life.
... but even then, sloppy maintenance as always, would seriously compromise
this statement.
Clive
'88 Syncro
The WBX obviously does not meet these criteria.
----- Original Message -----
From: "al jordans" <aljordans@ATTBI.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 10:15 PM
Subject: FW: Increasing horsepower - Long -Boring
> Arrgghh! Time to defend the turbos......
>
> Maintenance is the key.... synthetic blend/synthetic oil (and filter)
> changed at 3-5k mile intervals; allowing turbo to spin down and cool by
> idle-ing a minute or more after hard running.
>
> I've had four different turbo vehicles in the last 35+ years:
> '65 Corvair 180 Turbo ==> ran like a dream till body rot and
> accident dead-lined it at approx 125kmi.
> '83 Saab 900 Turbo ==> except for cracked head at ~110kmi ("they all do
> that") trouble-free till traded in at 210kmi for a
> '87 Saab 900 Turbo ==> 255kmi with no problems except body rot and
> accessory failures not worth fixing, donated to
> Salvation Army and replaced by
> '91 Saab 9000 Turbo ==> currently in my stable with 155kmi and only tranny
> pilot bearings and prophylactic clutch and pressure
> plate while in there for tranny repairs.
>
> Thus I think turbocharging is as close to getting something for nothing as
> you can get and I have not had problem one with turbos in 600kmi. I also
> drive aggressively as described in today's parlance.
>
> aljordans
> '87 Syncro=>"Big Blue Twinkie"
> '88 Wolfsburg Subagon =>"Blue Vanaroo"
> '91 Saab 9000 T=>"Red Rocket"
> '93 Mustang 5.0L=>"Blue Beast"
>
> ----------
> From: David Brodbeck <gull@CYBERSPACE.ORG>
> Reply-To: David Brodbeck <gull@CYBERSPACE.ORG>
> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 14:53:34 -0400
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Increasing horsepower - Long -Boring
>
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Stan Wilder wrote:
>
> > A supercharged, Turbo charged, blown gasoline engine is a transient
thing
> > ............... they don't last that long in automobiles.
> > This possibly has something to do with the idiots that abuse them.
>
> I think this is the key. I know some 80s vintage turbocharged gas cars
> that are still running, but they're invariably owned by mechanics or very
> careful drivers.
>
> I've also seen a lot of classified ads along the lines of,
> "1991 Saab 900 Turbo, 140,000 miles, bad turbo. $400 OBO."
>
> _ _
> David M. Brodbeck (N8SRE) Ypsilanti, MI
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