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Date:         Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:28:11 -0500
Reply-To:     "G.M.Bulley" <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
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From:         "G.M.Bulley" <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Organization: Bulley-Hewlett
Subject:      Grey Market, was: A different camper van (somewhat O/T)
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Admittedly, I know nothing about grey-market vehicles and little about importing, so Barry's note intrigues me.

I was under the impression that the old, fairly simple (pre 1980's??) method of bringing "other country" cars into the USA was gone, and that now it was practically impossible, requiring such things as crash testing, even if other variants of the same vehicle (ala VW Eurovan v. MB Vito) were sold here.

Am I wrong? Is it still a matter of showing the speedometer has MPH on it, and that the turn signals are the right color?? Has anyone on list brought a vehicle into the US in recent years? I'm not in a position to buy a Vito today, but if I KNEW I could get one here, some priorities might change (I might sell that kidney after all).

Bringing ideas to life, G. Matthew Bulley Bulley-Hewlett www.bulley-hewlett.com AIM = IExplain4u +1.919.658.1278 "Fax mentis incendium gloria culpum"

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of Barry E. Muller Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:46 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: A different camper van (somewhat O/T)

I saw several Vitos last I was in Germany about 18 mos ago. CDI. Practicality. Great looks. An MB - what more could one ask for. Sure the engine is up front but it is a modern diesel. I'd be very happy with the Vito F - MB's version of Multivan. Marco Polo would obviously be a bonus.

I bet we'll never see that. I'm guessing the base would start about $35-40 and the clean design would turn-off most large van buyers over here (you know the type - want shag carpeting - f*gly oak "appointments", overstuffed "captain chairs", cave-like interior - i.e. gloomy). But I've been wrong before and really hope I'm wrong this time!

Maybe an enterprising individual will start importing them as a group for us a la the group orders of bits from SA! I can see it now: "Putting together a bulk order of MB Vitos from the fatherland. Minimum 10 vehicles Vito F $40k, if I get 10-20 orders the price drops to $35k ..." and so forth. Of course as they'd be grey market you won't have a warranty - but neither does your vanagon - and at the rate I'm replacing parts on my '91 Carat I might hit $30,000 over the next 3 years! (just kidding - but does seem that way some days).

bem ----- Original Message ----- From: "G.M.Bulley" <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: Re: A different camper van (somewhat O/T)

> If you ask me, the Vito Marco Polo is a far more interesting vehicle; > the culmination of Westfalia and VW (Eurovan) engineering. > > The sprinter wouldn't fit in my garage, and is (although larger) a more > cumbersome daily driver. The Marco Polo is more in line with our typical > Westfalia Vanagons (IMHO). > > http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/rv/marcopolo/default.htm > > Pax-- > > G. Matthew Bulley > Mount Olive, NC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf > Of Reid Anderson > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:05 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: A different camper van (somewhat O/T) > > Some additional research found MB stating the following in regard to the > James Cook Sprinter: > "Incorporating numerous clever details from Westfalia, the camper van > specialists..." <snip> > > Ahhh... Music to my ears. So the conversion will be done by our pals, > Westy > co. > > The short blirp (publishing term) can be seen here: > http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/rv/jamescook/ > with links to the PDF brochure (thirty-plus pages) and other > information..... > > This looks like a cool van.... > Reid


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