Date:         Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:21:13 -0600
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: exhaust quality questions
Comments: To: androbus@YAHOO.COM
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I'm not knocking S&S I think they make good stuff.
I just had an expensive Go-Around getting what I was supposed to get the
first time.
I just think about the variety of vehicles on the road and wonder how
anybody can have windshields or even water pumps in stock, the inventory
cost must be horrific.
S&S is still a small company and they do the best they can with what they
got.
I'm pleased that we have choices.

Stan Wilder


On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:53:25 -0800 Paul Archibald <androbus@YAHOO.COM>
writes:
> Strange to hear that S&S pipes are getting bad press. I
> just went out to check, and yes, the S&S header/muffler on
> my '68 bug is still in wonderfull condition as it was many
> years ago. I installed it in '84!!! Absolutely no problem
> with that or ones on vans at the time from my memory. I
> wonder if their quality control has gone down? I have found
> that tube headers do tend to often take a bit of tweaking
> to fit perfectly, and if you ever take them off, they are
> even harder to get back on, but my S&S pipes had been
> on/off a few times with no issue. Now the exhaust gasket
> from the header to the can was another story, bolts came
> loose a few times in the first couple years, but have not
> been an issue for over a decade.
>
> by hte way, I wouldn't sweat the issue of the pipe needing
> to be torqued to fit, on heating everything changed, so
> it's not undre the same stress as it was. this is no big
> deal.
>
> Paul
>
>
> --- Damon Campbell <damoncampbellvw@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > I would dissuade anyone from purchasing S+S pipes.  I
> > have them on my '84, and basically the shop that
> > installed them had a helluva time getting them to fit and
> > S+S was a total bastard about wanting to make sure they
> > provide a good product.  So basically, a bunch of guys
> > hung on the pipe to get one of the exhaust ports to line
> > up.  To me, this says the life span of the mild-steel
> > pipes has been cut considerably.
>
> > Overally, i'm not impressed with S+S... of course, many
> > others have had opposite experiences.
>
> >  Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@MTS.NET> wrote:I need to replace a
> > few exhaust pipes on my 85 Westfalia. My local repair
> > shop suggested S+S pipes as a more economical alternative
> > to VW parts (half
> > the price it turned out). What choices do i have in terms
> > of aftermarket
> > suppliers, and how do they compare in price and quality?
>
>
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