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Date:         Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:57:10 -0500
Reply-To:     Myron Lind <mdlind@RICA.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Myron Lind <mdlind@RICA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Overland Engines
Comments: To: "Barry E. Muller" <bmuller@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <00e801c28ee6$85544570$4065b783@barrys48a3s4et>

Hi Barry, others

I am installing the overland TDD (mechanical TDI) into my van right now. I got it through Karl Mullendore, and I am sure he could supply you with a motor or kit as well. I also got a ride in the 5 cylinder/5 speed gas kit that Karl installed in someone else's van. Pretty impressive display of power, but I am after the simplicity of the diesel and the economy as well.

Overland seems from my experience through Karl to be a bit difficult to work with. They just send out the stuff. If it's not what you wanted or expected, deal with it. Karl had a hard time even getting questions answered. I simply state this because it could affect some peoples choice to do this themselves or not. Case in point, new alternator supplied with the motor, no bracket, serpentine pulley on the alternator (with the one-way clutch so it won't "squeak" as you stop the engine), but a V-belt pulley on the crank. That is an expensive serpentine pulley since it has rubber damping built in between the belt area and the mounting area. It's also an expensive mounting bracket for the alternator since it includes the belt tensioner. Around $200 EACH!

I would also say that this would be a very difficult install (for me, at least) without a metal lathe, milling machine, some sort of welder, and brazing torch. I also have a pretty huge stock of metric bolts, grade 12.9 and stainless, and this simplifies the process as well.

Anyway, the install: Slow process for me. I got the older style block, so most of the previous diesel stuff bolts right on. Had to make a new left motor mount, redoing the carrier bars because I found a 5 speed transmission, and that scoots the motor back an inch or so. Redoing the carrier bars also allows me to easily lower the motor about 3/4 inch to so the injection pump aneroid will clear the engine hatch cover. Also had to make adapter for the water pump pulley, the coolant hose out the side of the head, and new throttle/grommet bracket. Will need adapter for the oil filler because it hits the water pump pulley (that's because I went with the serpentine belt, which moved everything to the rear). Had to remove some sort of crank sensor and make a plug, changed around the turbo drain, cap off an outlet in the exhaust manifold, make (still doing this) exhaust system. I just hauled it out to the van yesterday, got it centered and level today, now off to finish fabricating the motor carrier bars. Then I can see where the exhaust can and can't go.

I'd be happy to share more details with anyone interested, or post pictures to some web site somewhere if there is interest. I don't know how to do the web pictures myself.

Myron Lind Harrisonburg, VA

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Barry E. Muller Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:40 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Overland Engines

Has anyone on this list actually had an engine from Overland put in their van?


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