Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 23:47:12 -0000
Reply-To: Clive Smith <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Clive Smith <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM>
Subject: Re: VW vs Rolls
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Don't ask me how I know this......
1990 Carat
1967 Cooper S
Mmmm, no idea, none at all, apart from two very nice motors and if the1st is
a Syncro you have 2 real classics!
But I think it's the shockers can't be matched to the progressive spring
rate, not the progressive rate itself that's the problem - does get a bit
jerky one-up, granted, but then what a fantastic load factor - 2:1 - a bit
like the Lanc (that I keep eulogising about, sorry, I'm just plane mad), its
ultimate MTOW was twice its empty weight - NMPKT!
Clive
'88 Syncro Transporter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Bergum" <organslave@earthlink.net>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>; "Clive Smith"
<clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: VW vs Rolls
> The original rubber cones designed by Moulton were a good solution to the
> *load* variations of having a tiny little car accomodate one small adult
to
> 4 strapping soccer players with luggage on the roof. The cones are
> extremely progressive, and too much so if you regularly drive with only
one
> or two people. There is available today a coil spring replacement
> suspension that apparently handles so well that if you use one in an
> autocross, they add points to your handicap (like better brakes or a
bigger
> engine).
> Don't ask me how I know this......
>
> Randy Bergum
> 1990 Carat
> 1967 Cooper S
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Clive Smith <clive.harman-smith@NTLWORLD.COM>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Date: 11/15/2002 12:56:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: VW vs Rolls
> >
> > Shocking lot, aren't we!
> >
> > ... and Cooper S's of '67, '68 Monte Carlo Rally winning vintage were
all
> > 'dry' to my knowledge, a good 140 lbs lighter than the 'wet'
hydroelastic*
> > ones - though Paddy was quite amazed when first driving a 'wet' Cooper
> 'S' -
> > brilliant on ice apparently. But with 8" (!!) alloys and hydroelastic
> > suspension - little chance of avoiding that warthog!
> >
> > The Monte Carlo winning Cooper S's were red with a white roof, weren't
> they,
> > not BRG? ... and we are talking 1275 'S' in contradistinction to the
later
> > 9- stud 1275GT iron crank Mini Clubman, a dog if ever there was one,
> aren't
> > we?
> >
> > Clive
> > * Mr ('dry suspension cone' and 'hydroelastic') Moulton now designs
> > high-tech hand-built folding bicycles of exceptional quality from his
> > inherited country pile I believe. They're much sought after by cycling
> > enthusiasts the world over and by 'collectors' of modern technology.
He's
> > now 80 something and when his university days were interrupted by WWII,
> > became a 'man from the ministry', seconded to the Bristol Engine Co. to
> > assist Roy Fedden, sleeve-valve guru - after a bomb hit their drawing
> office
> > and killed several 'key' staff - he went back to Uni after the war and
> > continued his study - but changed its discipline. He became a cause
> celebre
> > and another Great British commerical tragedy, when his Moulton folding
> > bicycle design was 'stolen' (by Raleigh amongst others) - I think his
> > philosphy now is '...never grow your business so large that the 'big
boys'
> > even know you exist, let alone want to steal your dreams or buy you
out' -
> > quite a contrast to what most entrepreneurs are aiming at today!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "pensioner" <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: VW vs Rolls
> >
> >
> > > The Hon. Winston Ponsonby-Smythe and his wife is touring the
> Transvaal...
> > >
> > > G. Nashly Cogswell is also in country in his Paddy Hopkirk Rallye
Monte
> > > Carlo Mini Cooper 1275S on his way to RSA to pick up the last of the
> Kombi
> > > syncro 5cyl TDIs and some spares for his Spagthorpe Whippet. As he
> > > approaches a walled alleyway a dandy liveried Rolls rudely pulls out
> just
> > in
> > > front of his turn. Luckily the hydroelastic suspension and 8" wide
> > minilites
> > > allowed him to take evasive action in time to avoid wrinkling the
> > paintwork
> > > on the bonnet. From the lofty cabin of the rolls a portly matron
scowls
> > > "pig!".
> > >
> > > Cogswell flashes his most significant digit, screams back "SOW!", and
> WFO
> > > drifts around the corner scattering gravel with the deafening snarl of
> the
> > > 1275 at full chat...directly into the side of the largest warthog on
> > record
> > > in the region.
> > >
> > > Wife looks at Winston and mutters.
>
>
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