Date:         Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:55:26 -0800
Reply-To:     zolo <zolo@FOXINTERNET.COM>
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From:         zolo <zolo@FOXINTERNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bucko update
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---- Original Message ----
From: warmerwagen@HOTMAIL.COM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: RE: Bucko update
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:32:52 -0800

>Hello Vanagonians,
>
>For those of you who have been following my saga of cutting out ,
>there is no progress report. This is mainly because there is no
>progress!
>
>Just to clarify- it's not grounds, air leaks, fuel supply power
>supply, etc. It starts up, it idles, it cruises on level ground. it
>can't take acceleration- if you push on the gas pedal gently or
>hard, it will buck-a buck-a buck-a.
>For those who only understand carburetion it's like a major "flat
>spot" as if the accelerator pump was bad.
>
>Of course, in fuel injection there is no accelerator pump.
>Also, when I shut off the key , it Diesels.Is the engine trying to
>tell me to switch to a Diesel engine?!!
> The timing is OK, the dist has a new Hall sender-I knew it wasn't
>the Hall sender.
>
>Refreshing my memory and yours on verses from the Bosch Fuel
>Injection book, all indicators point to the AFM.
>So, all of mine must have failed all at the same time!
>
>It can't take any acceleration. Now some might think well when you
>accelerate , the water in the tank of bad gas sloshes around ,and
>gets sucked in the pump.
>Not if you drive like you have a robin's egg under your foot!
>It's also a steady cutting out- you lurch -lurch -lurch evenly.
>
>So here's what I'm going to do - I'll take my AFM's somewhere to see
>if they are any good, and if not- then I'm switching it all over t0
>95 Motronic like I wanted to a long time  ago anyway. I have it all
>in a box .
>
>For you WBX drivers, it's the FI system that powers 93 and later
>Golf-Jetta etc.
>There is no AFM in Motronic, but the hot wire mass air flow sensor
>with no moving parts, no wiper, no adjustment, no capacitor fix.
>
>Since the AFM syndrome affects WBX Digifant and well as 88-92
>Golf-Jetta Digifant 2, this may be of some interest to you.
>
>In fact, I wonder if anyone has switched their Vanagon FI system to
>Motronic? If you can switch to carburetion, then you can also adapt
>a newer FI system. If you are one who has decided you'll never
>convert to a different engine,
>more power and reliability will be had ,along with adaptive
>management and OBD (on board diagnosis. )
>
>But I didn't say it will be easy.
>
>As before, your comments, advice, recommendations, and opinions are
>welcomed-
>Thanks
>
>Robert
>
>1982 Westfalia
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>
Motronic? Huhh?!  That is interesting.  I guess we just have to sit
it out and wait for the manual you will make along the way about the
ins and outs of putting in the new system.  Hopefully the 'bucko'
will behave.  It is most disturbing to hear all the symptoms and no
improvements after all the trials.
I personally am looking forward to hear of the final result.
Regards, Zoltan