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Date:         Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:29:33 -0500
Reply-To:     Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
Subject:      Visser From SA to Attend Mid Atlantic Bus Van Fest
Comments: To: Syncro@onelist.com
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<html> <font size=3>This email is to let everybody know that we have a distinguished guest from South Africa, Jan Visser, planning to attend Tom Forhan's house near Washington DC this coming Saturday for the Mid Atlantic holiday fest from 1:30 to 5:30pm.<br> <br> In addition, guests can check out Tom's Syncro with large impressive mud tires and 6.17 final drive gears. Tom will also be demonstrating how this vehicle can actually drive over his waist-high stone wall at the event.<br> <br> I will be driving Jan over and then he has to get back to the airport by about 3:30 so he will have to leave a little early--probably about 2:30--so you if you want to pick his brain you may want to show up promptly to this event, which starts at 1:30pm. <br> <br> For anybody on the fence about whether to show up, this is your chance to mob a real South African expert. <br> <br> Jan is one our most knowledgeable syncroists, very sophisticated, and an impressive writer. <br> <br> I will also be making a preview announcement of vital importance to any owner of a Vanagon or Syncro regarding a technical advance that has been achieved to strengthen Vanagon and Syncro transmissions and prepare them for longer life and for use with stronger motors. I should have a full report on this matter to post to the list in the next two weeks. In my view, after the implications of this material is understood here in North America, there will be few owners who would willingly have their transmission rebuilt without implementing some specific changes inside the box, particularly if they ever contemplate putting in larger torque motors.&nbsp; If you are thinking of having your transmission rebuilt in the next few days, you may wish to wait before proceeding with that job until you hear the full story. The applicability of this information is to the rear unit only and does not affect the front differential.<br> <br> <blockquote type=cite cite>X-eGroups-Return: sentto-83749-14346-1038930113-derekdrew=rcn.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com<br> X-Sender: Thomas.Forhan@mail.house.gov<br> X-Apparently-To: Syncro@yahoogroups.com<br> To: &quot;'Derek Drew'&quot; &lt;derekdrew@rcn.com&gt;,<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * SYNCROW *<br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>&lt;transporter99@hotmail.com&gt;<br> Cc: Syncro@yahoogroups.com<br> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59)<br> From: &quot;Forhan, Thomas&quot; &lt;thomas.forhan@mail.house.gov&gt;<br> X-Yahoo-Profile: fourwdvw<br> Mailing-List: list Syncro@yahoogroups.com; contact Syncro-owner@yahoogroups.com<br> Delivered-To: mailing list Syncro@yahoogroups.com<br> List-Unsubscribe: &lt;<a href="mailto:Syncro-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:Syncro-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;<br> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:41:47 -0500<br> Subject: RE: [Syncro] tires for 16&quot; wheels<br> <br> </font><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">Derek, </font><font size=3><br> &nbsp;<br> </font><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">I guess we will have some syncro owners checking out my 235/70/16 BFG Mud Terrians at the Holiday Bus Fest Saturday, but for those that can't make it, it might be good to add a point or two to the &quot;all about&quot; page.</font><font size=3><br> &nbsp;<br> </font><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">The factory specs for my BFG&nbsp; 235/70/16 Mud Terrain include a diameter of 29.2&quot; and revs per mile of&nbsp; 715, those specs are based on mounting on rims 7&quot; wide, as opposed to the wheels you supply, which are 6.5&quot; wide. Saturday we can actually measure the diameter and do an update.</font><font size=3><br> &nbsp;<br> </font><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">First, syncro owners should consider this spec the maximum for unmodified rear trailing arms. The clearance is on average 3/16&quot;, but appears even tighter at certain points. </font><font size=3><br> &nbsp;<br> </font><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">Second, remember that I had to modify the rear part of my front wheel well to eliminate tire/body contact. I cut out a piece, starting about 3/4&quot; wide at the bottom of the wheel well, tapering up to zero about 9 inches up well, more or less. I saved the scrap, maybe we should post a photo of it to give others an idea of what was iremoved.</font><font size=3><br> &nbsp;<br> </font><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">I guess the real point is that with my installation I found the tires are too large to install without any body modifications, but close. Perhaps an inch smaller in diameter would result in no need to cut the body, and provide adequate clearance at the rear trailing arms for -at least- cable type chains. </font><font size=3><br> &nbsp;<br> </font><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">Specs of revs per mile and diameter vary brand to brand, and even tire to tire (i.e., it doesn't seem that you can necessarily do a direct computation of one from the other, from my experience). You suggest&nbsp; - and I agree- that tires with a minimum of 740 revs per mile are the largest make sense for stock geared WBX powered vehicles. I think that rule of thumb&nbsp; also defines about the biggest tire you can put on without expecting to also modify the bodywork.</font><font size=3><br> &nbsp;<br> </font><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">Tom F.</font><font size=3><br> &nbsp;</font> <dl><font face="tahoma" size=2> <dd>-----Original Message----- <dd>From:</b> Derek Drew [<a href="mailto:derekdrew@rcn.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:derekdrew@rcn.com</a>] <dd>Sent:</b> Monday, December 02, 2002 10:40 PM <dd>To:</b> * SYNCROW * <dd>Cc:</b> Syncro@yahoogroups.com <dd>Subject:</b> Re: [Syncro] tires for 16&quot; wheels<br> <br> </font><font size=3> <dd>I updated the wheels article recently with some good choices I noticed some people using. <br> <br>

<dd>You can see them in the beginning of the tires section at <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/All_About_16-Wheels_And_The_CV_900.htm" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/All_About_16-Wheels_And_The_CV_900.htm</a>. <br> <br>

<dd>In particular, Nokian seems to consistently make tires in unusual sizes that are suitable for the syncro's load bearing rating, and is steadily coming out with new sizes and tires all the time. So I am very impressed with the tire sizes available from that company. I also noticed that there is a suitable Dunlop tire too. <br> <br>

<dd>At 03:22 AM 12/3/2002 +0000, you wrote:<blockquote type=cite cite> <dd>Now that some of you (I presume anyway) have the 16&quot; wheels supplied by <dd>Derek Drew, I'm curious what your tire choices are. Especially those of you <dd>that are running stock engines and stock gearing and aren't after the <dd>biggest diameter tires possible.<br> <br>

<dd>Mark McCulley <dd>Seattle WA<br> <br>

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<dd>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/" eudora="autourl">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a> </blockquote> <dd>_______________________________________________ <dd>Derek Drew&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <dd>CEO &amp; Co-Founder <dd><a href="http://www.consumersearch.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.ConsumerSearch.com/</a> <dd>New York, NY &amp; Washington DC <dd>============================ <dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Best Consumer Advice Site&nbsp; <dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PC World Magazine, Aug. 2001, <dd>============================ <dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ConsumerSearch is Best <dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Newsweek, Nov. 5, 2001 <dd>============================ <dd>derekdrew@rcn.com <dd>212-580-6486 <br> <br>

<dd>Alternate numbers for the industrious phone caller that wants to try every avenue: 212-580-6486 (best), 703-408-1532 (cell); 202-966-7907 (Work), 212-580-4459 (Home), 202-966-0938 (Home), 978-359-8533 (fax [efax]). </font><tt> <dd>If you would like to modify your subscription settings (including unsubscribing), visit: <dd><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro</a> <dd>Please remember that rude or offensive language is not allowed on the Syncro list. Please try your best to resolve differences privately and keep them off the list.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> </tt><br> <br> <tt> <dd>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</a>.</tt> <br> <br>

</dl><br> <tt>If you would like to modify your subscription settings (including unsubscribing), visit:<br> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro</a><br> Please remember that rude or offensive language is not allowed on the Syncro list. Please try your best to resolve differences privately and keep them off the list.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> </tt><br> <br> <tt>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</a>.</tt> </blockquote><br> <div>_______________________________________________</div> <div>Derek Drew&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </div> <div>CEO &amp; Co-Founder </div> <div><a href="http://www.consumersearch.com/" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://www.ConsumerSearch.com/</a> </div> <div>New York, NY &amp; Washington DC</div> <div>============================</div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Best Consumer Advice Site&nbsp; </div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PC World Magazine, Aug. 2001,</div> <div>============================</div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ConsumerSearch is Best </div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Newsweek, Nov. 5, 2001 </div> <div>============================</div> <div>derekdrew@rcn.com</div> <div>212-580-6486 </div> <br> Alternate numbers for the industrious phone caller that wants to try every avenue: 212-580-6486 (best), 703-408-1532 (cell); 202-966-7907 (Work), 212-580-4459 (Home), 202-966-0938 (Home), 978-359-8533 (fax [efax]). </html>


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