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Date:         Fri, 6 Dec 2002 06:33:42 -0500
Reply-To:     "Barry E. Muller" <bmuller@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Barry E. Muller" <bmuller@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Overland Engines
Comments: To: Myron Lind <mdlind@rica.net>
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Hello and a belated thanks to all who responded to my initial email.

I asked because it seems that there was a bit of hoopla regarding Overland that appears to have died down again. I had been in contact with Overland initially, but they apprently forgot about me or lost interest (I suggested i may be interested in the use of my Carat as a beta for the swap of a diesel into a van with a slushbox). Since then there also seems to be less and less info on their webpages.

Sounds like the few repsondants who actually have a van with one of these engines seem to be pretty happ with the product. Guess I'll have to contact a "local" (within 300 miles) garage that Overland lists as a dealer.

Thanks again,

Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myron Lind" <mdlind@rica.net> To: "Barry E. Muller" <bmuller@uoft02.utoledo.edu>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: RE: Overland Engines

> Hi Barry, others > > I am installing the overland TDD (mechanical TDI) into my van right now. I > got it through Karl Mullendore, and I am sure he could supply you with a > motor or kit as well. I also got a ride in the 5 cylinder/5 speed gas kit > that Karl installed in someone else's van. Pretty impressive display of > power, but I am after the simplicity of the diesel and the economy as well. > > Overland seems from my experience through Karl to be a bit difficult to work > with. They just send out the stuff. If it's not what you wanted or expected, > deal with it. Karl had a hard time even getting questions answered. I simply > state this because it could affect some peoples choice to do this themselves > or not. Case in point, new alternator supplied with the motor, no bracket, > serpentine pulley on the alternator (with the one-way clutch so it won't > "squeak" as you stop the engine), but a V-belt pulley on the crank. That is > an expensive serpentine pulley since it has rubber damping built in between > the belt area and the mounting area. It's also an expensive mounting bracket > for the alternator since it includes the belt tensioner. Around $200 EACH! > > I would also say that this would be a very difficult install (for me, at > least) without a metal lathe, milling machine, some sort of welder, and > brazing torch. I also have a pretty huge stock of metric bolts, grade 12.9 > and stainless, and this simplifies the process as well. > > Anyway, the install: Slow process for me. I got the older style block, so > most of the previous diesel stuff bolts right on. Had to make a new left > motor mount, redoing the carrier bars because I found a 5 speed > transmission, and that scoots the motor back an inch or so. Redoing the > carrier bars also allows me to easily lower the motor about 3/4 inch to so > the injection pump aneroid will clear the engine hatch cover. Also had to > make adapter for the water pump pulley, the coolant hose out the side of the > head, and new throttle/grommet bracket. Will need adapter for the oil filler > because it hits the water pump pulley (that's because I went with the > serpentine belt, which moved everything to the rear). Had to remove some > sort of crank sensor and make a plug, changed around the turbo drain, cap > off an outlet in the exhaust manifold, make (still doing this) exhaust > system. I just hauled it out to the van yesterday, got it centered and level > today, now off to finish fabricating the motor carrier bars. Then I can see > where the exhaust can and can't go. > > I'd be happy to share more details with anyone interested, or post pictures > to some web site somewhere if there is interest. I don't know how to do the > web pictures myself. > > > Myron Lind > Harrisonburg, VA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of Barry E. Muller > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:40 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Overland Engines > > > Has anyone on this list actually had an engine from Overland put in their > van? > >


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