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Date:         Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:33:54 -0800
Reply-To:     Mike Miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mike Miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Water deliberately added to gasoline?
Comments: To: vanagon@volkswagen.org
In-Reply-To:  <AIEFIGCNNANNIHLNFBPEIENJGNAA.vanagon@volkswagen.org>
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My brother in law who's in the gas refining business says that mostly all grades of gas have the same cleaning additive package these days.

Mike

On 12/10/02 9:59 AM, "David Marshall" <vanagon@volkswagen.org> wrote:

> You are not dreaming - the stock 2.1 and 1.9L boxer motors will run fine on > the 87 octane fuel if the timing is set to stock. The only advantage to > running 'premium' fuel in our vehicles is more additives for cleaning fuel > injectors and the like. Also the higher the octane the less potential > energy the fuel has so you need to burn more to do the same work. In all my > years of running low compression ratio VWs I have always run 87 octane fuel > with a bottle of 'gas line anti-freeze' dumped in when I change to oil to > get any water that might be in the tank and a bottle of STP fuel injector > cleaner to keep them spraying nice - so far, no problems... > > David Marshall > > Fast Forward Automotive Inc. > 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road > Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 > > http://www.fastforward.ca mailto:sales@fastforward.ca > Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 > > - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions > - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and Importation > - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of Mike Miller > Sent: December 10, 2002 7:38 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Water deliberately added to gasoline? > > > I thought that van's used regular? More octane doesn't mean better gas or > better performance, at least unless you have an adaptive computer on your FI > and knock sensors. Or am I dreaming too? > > Mike > > On 12/10/02 2:40 AM, "prb" <prb@TELEVAR.COM> wrote: > >> Robert, I was travelling from northern WA to Portland. This trip was the >> first time I used less than the highest octane (about 92) available. By >> the time I got to Oregon I was starting on my 3rd full tank of 87 octane, >> and from various places. While in Portland I started experiencing some >> cutting out. On the way back it got worse once, then calmed down. Made > it >> home and topped up with 92 Chevron. Had one more bad cut-out. Next tank > 92 >> and "Heat". No cut-out since. >> >> Was it the Octane? Was it the state of OR? or the different stations? >> I've done the trip many times before, but always with the 92. >> Also, I haven't driven the van an awful lot since I got back, so it could >> still give me grief again. Just thought I'd throw this out, since you >> mentioned OR and cutting-out. >> >> --Patrice > > >


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