Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 07:57:56 -0800
Reply-To: mark drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: mark drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: 5 clyinder Audi 5000 Turbo to Vanagon engine swap........
MIS- INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!
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Not so fast. David Marshall did not say that Audi 5 cyl engines could
not be used. What he said was that the available Vanagon 5 cyl
bellhousing did not have provisions for the flywheel based timing system
the Audi TURBO 5 cyl engines used. The non-turbo Audi 5 engines are used
all the time as most people here know. You have not addressed his actual
point. I don't know about the turbo timing system myself.
Mark
Open Wheel Racing wrote:
>
> Greetings List,
>
> A short while back the list was full of much interest and chatter about
> installing a Turbo, or a Turbo engine in a Vanagon. It caught my interest
> for several reasons, one being that I have a very good Audi 5 cylinder Turbo
> engine for sale.
> Very shortly after I offered it to the list for sale, a list member in
> the engine swap business, posted a very knowledgeable note about how the
> Audi 5 cylinder Turbo engine would "Not" fit the Vanagon. Giving several
> reasons about how the flywheel wouldn't work, so the ignition could not
> work, and that no one made an adapter for the swap over, etc, etc.
> Well having seem this engine in a Vanagon, running and driving very
> well, I knew this was mis-information. I did not take a stand at the time
> for lack of proof. Not wanting to start a war (and still don't) I keep
> still, until I could state otherwise, with the facts to back it up.
> Please notice the postings of:
>
> Mr. Budd Premack, dated 1/1/03 at 10:25 pm, offering a friends Vanagon
> for sale. It seems the Vanagon has an Audi 5 cylinder engine in it, using
> mostly readily available "Stock parts". Pictures are at the listed web page
> at the bottom of the post. http://www.loam.org/bus4sale/
>
> Mr. Helmut Zeidler, dated 1/6/03 at 4:06 am, About the new T5
> Volkswagen. at this link: http://www.rupertiweb.de/bulli/forum.pl?read=23319
> showing pictures and general information. Its in German and has a lot tech
> info to wade through, but if you read down far enough you will come to a
> very small link, in English to a web site called "VW Bus Engine Swap to Audi
> 5E". Well that caught my eye and I clicked on and it has all the
> information: parts numbers, tech, and pictures of the 5 Cylinder Turbo and
> naturally aspirated engine swap.
>
> I also found a company in California that offers a kit at
> http://vanagonprojekt.com I am told they are a little pricey, but then I
> guess the commercial engine swap business is tough, and you have to be that
> way, unless your in the "Click".
>
> Well as a shameless commercial plug, I still have the 86 Audi 5000 Turbo
> engine for sale. It is in excellent condition, and complete with all needed
> systems to make the engine run right, and complete the installation.
> PLEASE MAKE ANY INQUIRIES OFF LIST!
>
> I hope the wrong information being given was a simple mistake, and not
> an attempt to corner the engine swap market. I see where some of these
> adapter kits are very pricey, starting at over $500.00 and up. Where the
> main part ( the bell housing ) is priced at $150.00 new in the web page ad.
> I guess some reluctance to offer this information is natural. I mean you
> don't hear a Maz- a dealer saying "go buy a Volkswagen" do you?
> Again I'm not trying to start a war, and if I have upset anyone, I
> apologize in advance. It just seems funny that with this much common
> knowledge about the availability of these "stock parts" etc, they would know
> also! Then I guess some people subscribe to the "Its not enough that I
> succeed, Everyone else must fail", philosophy.
> Please don't start a war and waste a lot of bandwidth with snide
> remarks. If you have an observation or a comment about my ancestry, please
> do so at openwhel@bellsouth.net . All E-mails will be answered promptly, off
> list. :-)
>
> Have a good day!
>
> Howard
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