Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:03:27 -0500
Reply-To: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
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From: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Subject: Re: [Syncro] Paging owners of syncro.org springs...info needed
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I'm interested in the air bag article when it comes out. I'll
also eventually be buying some syncro.org springs (from
Steve) so I'd like the specifics on using air bags with this
setup.
Thanks,
Chris
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>Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:19:38 -0700
>From: Ben McCafferty <ben@volkscafe.com>
>Subject: Re: [Syncro] Paging owners of syncro.org
springs...info needed
>To: <bentbtstr8@aol.com>, <pokey@vanagon.org>,
<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>, <syncro@yahoogroups.com>
>
>Below,
>tx,
>bmc :)
>Ben McCafferty
>ben@volkscafe.com
>
>Volks Cafe
>1823 Soquel Avenue
>Santa Cruz, CA 95062
>831-426-1244
>http://volkscafe.com
>
>>
>> None of which should stop him Ben M. from asking Steve
directly.
>--I had pinged him yesterday, on the syncrolist list, and
hadn't heard. I
>heard from him this afternoon, and have asked him directly.
>
>>IIRC Ben
>> doesn't own a Vanagon anymore. Do you BMC?
>--No, I am between Vanagons at the moment. But this isn't
really relevant,
>is it? If I had a 2WD Vanagon, or a syncro with stock
springs, I would be
>asking the same question.
>
>>Is he so "desperate" as you put it
>> that he can't wait for Steve to answer his question? Why
does he not disclose
>> his intent if it is indeed what you say?
>--Not desperate, just working and trying to complete an
article. As soon as
>I saw the posts about espionage, I did send a message on
what my intentions
>are/were.
>
>>If BMC did that when he asked the
>> question, I would not have commented on the matter. Most
of you who know that
>> I am rarely the first one to defend Syncro.org. However, I
feel this matter
>> is critical to the Syncro/Vanagon industry as a whole.
>--You are correct, and I will be more direct in what I'm
asking for and why
>in the future. I was in no way trying to infringe on
someone's intellectual
>property.
>
>>
>> The alternative spring idea is already there and has been
for many years. The
>> specifications BMC is asking for is proprietary in my
opinion.
>--It will be very easy for me to write this article without
including
>Steve's springs. Since the article is intended as a service
to the Vanagon
>community, I was trying to include as many Vanagon owners as
possible. I
>also realize that most people who have Steve's springs have
probably done
>lots of work on their suspension, and may not be interested
in the Air Lift
>bags in the first place. My last syncro westy had Steve's
springs on it,
>and still had the westy "list" to the left. Air Lift made a
nice
>difference, since I could add different pressure to the left
and right
>sides. So maybe some people will be interested after all.
>
>>
>> It wasn't too long ago that another listee sought out a
supplier to produce a
>> simplified version of the Projektzwo bumpers in
California. Month's later,
>> said supplier started selling the self same bumpers via a
certain retailer to
>> persons such as yourself. No credit given to the
aforementioned listee in any
>> form that I can ever recall.
>
>--I can't comment to this, since I wasn't around at that
time. I can only
>point to my reputation on the lists and apologize for making
some people
>uncomfortable. I do what I say I'll do, and my only
intention in asking
>this question was to discuss the requirements for air bags
with the Air Lift
>Company's engineers. You will notice that my question
didn't ask for any of
>the information that would really tell me how the spring was
>built--thickness of steel, number of coils, spring rate,
etc. I could build
>a lot of different springs with the information I asked for,
and never
>duplicate Steve's great springs.
>
>>
>> BenT
>> The shorter version of Benjamin Emmanuel S. Tan which is
my real name. And
>> yes BenTbtstr8@aol.com is my real email address. Give me a
break.......
>
>--Not sure what you mean; I have never known you to use
anything but this
>address since I've been on the lists?
>
>Thanks guys and gals,
>bmc :)
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