Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:35:48 -0800
Reply-To: Mike Pedersen <mikeped@SHAW.CA>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Mike Pedersen <mikeped@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: type IV push rod tubes leaking in 914 (Viton)
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This is a case where my transferable skills come in to help (well , not
really...). Viton is a brand name owned by Dupont or Dow, (I forget which,
and I think they merged anyways) There are at least 4 different groups of
Viton, probably more. Viton can have carbon black or not. I've seen it
light blue, pink, white, red-brown, and of course, black. The only way you
can tell is by reading the label. There are lots of Viton-like o-rings out
there. Viton is good for it's high temp resistance, long shelf life, and
ability to deal with corrosive materials. How do I know all this stuff?
Used to be a submarine mechanic. We had to staple the o-ring packaging on
to our QA/QC work to ensure the proper o-ring was installed. Soooo...don't
rely on color!
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: type IV push rod tubes leaking in 914 (advice needed)
> OK ............. The Victor Reinz engine gasket sets I buy are green and
> are labled Viton.
> Is there any possibility you could be wrong?
> All the Silicone main serals I buy are red. well burnt orange.
>
> Stan Wilder
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:46:03 -0500 "Vanagon man" <vgonman@msn.com>
> writes:
> > The reddish brown ones are the Viton.
> >
> >
> > Adam P
> > 81 Westy "The Brick "
> > 70 Single Cab "Whitey"
> > 74 Beetle "Ol Yeller"
> > 73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop)
> > 1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
> > 1976 Transporter (New CA bus)
> > 1974 412 "Goldmember"
> > Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: type IV push rod tubes leaking in 914 (advice needed)
> >
> >
> > > Remove
> > > the following, valve covers, rocker arms, wire retainer,push
> > > rodss,push-rodd tubes,push-rodd rock guards.
> > > Clean the bores in the block (Berryman B12 works good). Clean the
> > > push-rod tubes inside and out.
> > > Install the new push-rod tube seals on the tubes (green = Viton)
> > (reddish
> > > brown = silicone) (black = neoprene)
> > > Sealer isn't required but it doesn't hurt.
> > > Lubricate the O rings very good, insert them thorough the head
> > just
> > > touching the port in the engine block. Use a small screwdriver to
> > massage
> > > the upper area of the Outer O ring so it will slip into the head.
> > I use a
> > > 15mm socket on an extension to give me some pressure towards the
> > block
> > > when pushing the seals in.
> > > Adjust your valves after you get done with the seal job. Use new
> > valve
> > > cover gaskets. If the wire retainers are missing ---- get a pair.
> > > First time around never having done the job and being careful,
> > this job
> > > should take a casual 2 hours.
> > > Other Type IV hints and tips
> > > http://williamwareagency.com/forsale/stanvan/0003.htm
> > > Stan Wilder
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:58:05 EST Roger Reynolds
> > <Rogerspace2@AOL.COM>
> > > writes:
> > > > I'm doing a bit of work on my 914 and want to take care of the
> > > > leaking push
> > > > rod tubes. I have new o-rings and have read that I can use RTV
> > > > silicone to
> > > > help the o-rings seal. My question is: Do I simply have to
> > remove
> > > > the rocker
> > > > arms, slide the push rods back far enough to get the old
> > o-rings
> > > > off, clean
> > > > up the ends of the tubes, RTV the o-rings and reassemble
> > > > everything?
> > > >
> > > > I have the car elevated enough to be able to work from the
> > under
> > > > side and it
> > > > looks like there is not enough room to slide the tubes
> > completely
> > > > out of the
> > > > heads but enough room to replace the o-rings.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Roger
> > > >
> > > > '89 Westy
> > > > '73 914
> > > > '66 Beetle
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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