Date:         Sun, 23 Feb 2003 15:14:24 -0700
Reply-To:     SyncroWesty <SyncroWesty@ATTBI.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         SyncroWesty <SyncroWesty@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: vanagon with ticco engine/vibrations
Comments: To: Bob Stevens <mtbiker62@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I believe that someone else, Karl from Westy Ventures mabye, was saying that
he solved the vibration by welding the left side engine carrier where it
meets the frame.  There is a rubber bushing on the left engine carrier in a
Tiico setup that is not there on the right side carrier, or on either
carrier in a Diesel Vanagon.  He somehow overrode that carrier bushing, and
made a fixed connection to the frame.  No more vibrations.

Again it seems counter intuitive to solve a vibration problem by removing
and/or stiffining the current tiico bushing and mounts.  But it seems there
are at least two account of it working.

Cheers,

Cory

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Stevens" <mtbiker62@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: vanagon with ticco engine/vibrations


> Another listee recently posted that he had changed all mounts to solid,
not
> rubber insulated, except the left front mount and that was his next change
> to do. He said that the changes he had made had improved the resonance
> problem enough that he thought this was at the root of the problem. It was
> completely contrary to what a person would think would help. Just as you
> said, transmitting vibration and resonance into the "large box" the van
is,
> would seem to increase the problem, yet what he had done went contrary to
> that "logic".
>
> Bob
>
> Could it be that it is not the exhaust, but simply that the rear engine
> mounts are inadequate for the engine at 3-4K?   I have heard that this
> engine, vibrates a lot AND has a natural resonance at 3-4K. Maybe the rear
> mounts (which are primitive and small by modern standards) are letting
this
> vibration reach the frame, which in turn creates, in large open space of
the
> vanagon body type, the "drone" type sound we hear?
>
> How can we test if it is engine mount related our exhaust related?
>
> Can any user help with this?
>
> Andrew Nock
>
>
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