Date:         Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:33:57 -0500
Reply-To:     vw4x4 <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         vw4x4 <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Subject:      Re: vanagon with ticco engine/vibrations
Comments: To: Alistair Bell <albell@UVIC.CA>
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This is one of the things I have no idea what you guys are
talking about.  My swap I built myself.  The mounts are
right from a factory VW I4 Fox/Audi.  I also included
the third engine mount in the front of the engine.  This
is a well known problem area in engine swaps, and for this
reason I stuck with the factory parts.  4 clynders.are known
to have vibration problems. This is an issue as far back as
the model t fords.  The Golf and Jetta use a combination
of weights and hydralic mounts and even have a small
balance shaft that drives the distributor.  So if you don't
have this problem with the Tiico, I would be very suprised!
     Now the fix:  You have to find what is vibrating.  This
is the hard part. Rev the motor until it vibrates.  You
may even have to have someone drive the vehicle, with
the engine opened.  Warning you can get killed donig this!
Start phisically touching things.  Vibrations are many time
hard to see, but the minute you put your hand on it you
will know if it is the problem or not.  Weld, bolt, glue,
strap it down as tight as you can.  Your done.
                                      Eric


Alistair Bell wrote:

> 83.5 and later diesel Vanagons have no rubber bushings on tubular engine
> carrier mounts. Prior models had them (as does my '82).
>
> Look on my website for discussion on these points.
>
> Alistair
>
> --
> '82 Westy -> diesel converted to gas in '94
> albell@uvic.ca
> http://members.shaw.ca/albell
>
> on 23/2/03 2:14 pm, SyncroWesty wrote:
>
> > I believe that someone else, Karl from Westy Ventures mabye, was saying that
> > he solved the vibration by welding the left side engine carrier where it
> > meets the frame.  There is a rubber bushing on the left engine carrier in a
> > Tiico setup that is not there on the right side carrier, or on either
> > carrier in a Diesel Vanagon.  He somehow overrode that carrier bushing, and
> > made a fixed connection to the frame.  No more vibrations.
> >
> > Again it seems counter intuitive to solve a vibration problem by removing
> > and/or stiffining the current tiico bushing and mounts.  But it seems there
> > are at least two account of it working.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Cory