Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 15:58:30 -0800
Reply-To: Nock <McNock@EASYSTREET.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Nock <McNock@EASYSTREET.COM>
Subject: Re: vanagon with ticco engine/vibrations - discussed yes,
figured out no!
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beat to death yes, but definitively figured out - no! (at least for this
van!)
I have been to your website may times (fabulous and thanks) and searched the
achives many times. Below I have a list of all that has been done.
It is mostly everything every discussed. That is why I am so frustated.
Better, Absolutely. Fixed - well no.
My question now is what can I expect? What was the result of all the
discussion? Flat out I ask, Should the sound/tone be the same at 3,000
(no - drone) as as 3500 (drone) - like it is a modern car? Has this been
achieved in any ticco powered van?
If so I want that quite ride in mine! I simply cannot stop.
This is the list of fixes installed on this van:
w/ free hung exhaust per McClean (from list)
w/ cat support bolted directly to engine block (ie no rubber)
w/ rubber mounted alternator bracket per someone on the list (from list)
w/ mastic rubber sheets on body metal (from list)
w/ drivers right side forward engine support bar rubber bushing welded (from
list)
w/ custom weather stripping on all doors to make door joints "surface flush"
and help eliminate wind noise (not from list)
w/ extra muffler hangers on the manifold to make sure it is not resonating
(not from list)
w/ 2 pieces of sheet rock laying flat on van floor to help eliminate sound
from floor (not from list this is temporary!)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alistair Bell" <albell@uvic.ca>
To: "Nock" <McNock@easystreet.com>; "vanagon" <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: vanagon with ticco engine/vibrations
> This subject has been almost done to death on the list, try searching
> archives!
>
> And I have some info on my website.
>
> Alistair
>
> --
> '82 Westy -> diesel converted to gas in '94
> albell@uvic.ca
> http://members.shaw.ca/albell
>
>
>
>
> on 23/2/03 12:55 pm, Nock wrote:
>
> > On trying to rid the "last vestige" of drown between 3-4K rpm.
> >
> > Could it be that it is not the exhaust, but simply that the rear engine
> > mounts are inadequate for the engine at 3-4K? I have heard that this
> > engine, vibrates a lot AND has a natural resonance at 3-4K. Maybe the
rear
> > mounts (which are primitive and small by modern standards) are letting
this
> > vibration reach the frame, which in turn creates, in large open space of
the
> > vanagon body type, the "drone" type sound we hear?
> >
> > How can we test if it is engine mount related our exhaust related?
> >
> > Can any user help with this?
> >
> > Andrew Nock
>