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Date:         Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:36:38 -0800
Reply-To:     Road Trip <roadpanzer@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Road Trip <roadpanzer@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      treatise on  Syncro Westy values
Comments: To: developtrust@COX.NET
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Judy's very desirable Syncro Westie's value is in my opinion severely impacted by the reality of its lifetime spent in Michigan. Even if you spray down the body after every jaunt into salt laden roads, you would still have tremendous corrosion under the van on drivetrain components (ever see an east coast van and how powdery the aluminum components are from corrosion?) and associated bracketry. Things in her favor are that it is a 91, Orly Blue, and original owner car, has an extremely clean interior, and many receipts. Negatives are the mileage and impending major maintenance needs, even with its history of recorded maintenance. Without further evidence to the contrary, im guessing that it will sell to a savvy buyer (key for these money pits) at 13.5-15 k. With a rebuilt motor and/or tranny 16k. If it were west coast, at that mileage, with a rebuilt motor, 17-18 k. If it had 100k miles and west coast, with rebuilt motor, 21-22 to the right buyer. Ive sold three orig. owner west/coast syncro westies, mint, no issue 90-91 sub 100k miles vehicles for 23-25k. But those days are over most likely.

syncroless in seattle, apologies to dreamers, -steve

>From: developtrust <developtrust@COX.NET> >Reply-To: developtrust <developtrust@COX.NET> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: Syncro Westy for sale >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:57:20 -0800 > >The fact is that for all campers, especially those well cared for and >upgraded blue book values are meaningless. Blue book is primarily a tool >used by banks who lend money on vehicles (and buyers who won't pay for >value.) Has anyone heard of a banker that will lend on the true value of a >vehicle? If you NEED to sell you may have to give in to blue book values, >but if you know the value then my experience is hold out for what you know >it is worth. I sold my last camper (A Lazy Daze) for more than I paid for >it >and more than blue book, but I had to wait a year for the right buyer who >could see the value. All lookers low balled me. I regret selling it now. It >was a beauty. > >William > > > > Hi John, > > I ran it on Kelley Blue Book (www.kbb.com); you just need to use Vanagon >GL > > Camper, and then "syncro 4WD" is an option to check on the vehicle > > description page. In excellent condition, with the things her van has, >it > > gives a private party value of $12,090. But I think you'll find that >KBB > > has little to do with actual selling prices of syncro westies. > > Best, > > bmc :) > > Ben McCafferty > > ben@volkscafe.com > > > > Volks Cafe > > 1823 Soquel Avenue > > Santa Cruz, CA 95062 > > 831-426-1244 > > http://volkscafe.com > > > > > > > From: John Rodgers <j_rodgers@charter.net> > > > Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:09:15 -0600 > > > To: Ben McCafferty <ben@volkscafe.com> > > > Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > Subject: Re: Syncro Westy for sale > > > > > > I was curious so I looked up - or tried to look up - Westy Syncro's in > > > both Kelly and NADA. Doesn't exist as far as I can tell. No kind of > > > Syncro was listed, although all kinds of other Vanagons are listed as > > > far back as 1986. > > > > > > Anyone got any suggestions as to what book is on this little beauty? > > > I'm envious as all get out, but just can't afford it. <Sob!,Sob!> > > > > > > John Rodgers > > > 88 GL Driver > > > Ben McCafferty wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all, > > >> I have been helping Judy (the owner) get the history of her syncro >westy > > >> together, along with Dan Simmons. It is a 1991, blue, 154K, original >owner, > > >> and the asking price is $19,900. If you're interested, please look >at >the > > >> maintenance history and pictures at: > > >> > > >> http://www.geocities.com/magicbus1974/molly/molly1.htm > > >> > > >> I have no financial or other interest in this vehicle; as stated, I >have > > >> just been helping out with the write-up and online side of things. >Please > > >> contact Judy with any questions or offers, and enjoy! > > >> > > >> tx, > > >> bmc :) > > >> Ben McCafferty > > >> ben@volkscafe.com > > >> > > >> Volks Cafe > > >> 1823 Soquel Avenue > > >> Santa Cruz, CA 95062 > > >> 831-426-1244 > > >> http://volkscafe.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > >

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