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Date:         Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:10:11 EST
Reply-To:     BenTbtstr8@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Ben T <BenTbtstr8@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: titles for cars that dont have titles
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In a message dated 3/11/03 10:27:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, JordanVw@AOL.COM writes:

<< i think ben is missing the point due to lack of info. im not talking about wrecks here, just cars that the titles are gone..lost..misplaced..whatever..>>

Chris, you've changed the subject of this thread. The subject was clearing a salvage title from the vehicle records. I believe you know that. Come on, most of us know your view on these things. It's IN the archives how you even posted VIN plates for sale for the exact same purpose.;)

<< Then big filthy rich Real Estate brokers like Ben (jk ben! ;<)) come in and take their house over at a real estate auction/sheriffs sale or whatever. buyers of house dont want the cherry westy in the garage, so they have it hauled off.. once again junkyard/impound says "this is too nice to junk" and sell it whole w/o title. >>

You are watching way too much late night infomercials on this crap. If you want to take a cheap shot at my occupation go to pmail. Sorry, this does not cut it. "(jk ben! ;<))". In California WHERE I am a Realtor, you simply go to the local DMV and fill-out a form saying you lost the title. Cost $7. If the person died and did not sign the original title, you get that person's Executor to sign a title for you. Cost nothing. If there is no Executor, the court will assign one. You don't just take the property w/o dues process. That's stealing even if you are a relative of the deceased. If you legally obtain the vehicle without any of the above scenarios, you perform a lien sale. Costs about $20 if you do it yourself. About $75 for a bonded company to do one for you.

SALVAGE is SALVAGE even under any of the above scenarios. If the vehicle has been tagged as such, most VIN searches performed for any of the above will reveal a salvage title.

<< nothing fraudulent about it. both vehicles have good titles, but the titles are just lost and the last owners are either dead or not interested in having anymore to do w/ said vehicle. so it is up to the buyer to get a title. a buddy of mine bought a '68 bug conv this way. car was primo, from cali, some rich japanese exchange student drove it out here from berkely when he transferred to princeton, then abandoned it in the school parking lot when he graduated and went back to Japan.. nothing wrong w/ the car, it wasnt stolen or wrecked, it just had no keys or title. damn thing ran and drove great. youd be suprised what people abandon, for any reason. my bud picked it up for $1500 from a yard outside of Trenton w/o a title. >>

Abandoned vehicles are not branded SALVAGE in California regardless of who and how it was abandoned. The DMV here has enough foresight for that. But if the yard calls the vehicle salvage for whatever reason, the salability of that vehicle is effectively "damaged". Managing to change that designation is FRAUD.

<< used the following company with great results. he just sent them the vin and $200 and that was it. and no, it doesnt have a nevada title, it now has a good NJ title in his name. check out their website for particulars. >>

Yes, I'm using them as well. But not to clear salvage tags. Unfortunately they do not do a thorough enough check to identify the cheaters. BTW, you can do this same thing by asking a listee or a friend who lives in Nevada to do the exact same thing for you. Costs much less.

BenT not salvaged


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