Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:26:44 -0600
Reply-To: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Warning!! Something doesn't sound right here,
I need some advice please
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Your deal doesn't sound all that fishy to me.
I've bought merchandise from China and had banks perform a 'Wire Transfer
of Funds'.
Since this transaction is strictly between banks it is secure with no
potential charge backs.
Everybody is in a hurry but when you get paid get the cash on the
cashiers check and be sure your bank isn't going to come back with any
reversals on you. It might take several days but a quick council with
your bank officer should ease your mind. Be sure the cashiers check is on
a US bank so you can call and verify the bank exist.
Addressing the return of extra funds: Hold off until you got the $9000.00
in US greenbacks in your hands then perform a 'Wire Transfer of Funds' to
his account, where ever that might be. You'll need his Bank name, Account
number, wire transfer code that will be provided by his bank. You don't
want him to deny receiving the funds.
I can only speculate but I'm thinking that the fellow knows that it is
extra effort to export a vehicle, hence the extra $100.00. You might want
to go to US Customs office on the Internet and read the rules and print
the required forms ahead of time.
Since money is the only remaining issue spend your time verifying and
collecting the money before you let the car go.
Then addressing the cutting and pasting statement:
I've communicated with several suppliers in South America, Mexico and
Spain. I used the Lycos Translator on my documents a few times and then
had them proof read by a Spanish speaking local person.
In my communications with my Chinese vendors many of the statements were
vague or could have had different meanings to someone not well versed in
machine parts. I'm guessing that the purchaser might not be an English
speaking person and has relied on translators to express his desires.
I say again: Be sure your bank will verify that the cashiers check is
good, if this takes thirty days then 'so be it'.
The measure of whether it is a legit real money deal is if the car hauler
shows up with the cashiers check and doesn't allow you time to secure
your funds before hand.
Don't let them press you forward until you got the "Jack".
Stan Wilder
83 Air Cooled Westfalia
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:39:31 -0500 Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET> writes:
> I read this on another list. I think it is important
> that everyone reads and is aware of con artist
> like this. There are two messages here...
> Eric
>
>
>
>
> -------snip------
> Hey Group, I have been trying to sell my 73 Orange Bus
> for several months. A couple of days ago I get an
> email from a guy wanting pictures and details. He
> says he is in London. I sent him the pics and detail.
> Today I get this email from him, his email to me in
> in the next paragraph. Sounds like some kind of
> illegal activity going on here but am not sure. What
> do you think?
>
> Thanks for the response and information about
> the car i saw the pictures.like i told you ,i am based
> in london but presently on a business trip to
> africa,however i intend to pay with a cashiers check
> through my colleague in US that is owing me $9,000,i
> will instruct my colleague to send the check to
> you,when the check clears ,you deduct the cost of the
> car rane and send what ever balance to me.i have
> already made shipping arrangements,when the check has
> been cashed,i will inform my shipping agent to
> contact for the pick up of the car ,if you are willing
> to assist with this transaction,then i have noted the
> name and address where you want the check sent.so that
> the check will be sent immediately,as i will like to
> have this car pretty soon.my shipper will receive the
> paperwork
>
> thanks once again.
>
>
> Two things I should also mention is that in the email
> to me the paragraph is a different font then anything
> else so it's like he cut and paste it in the email.
>
> He also offered me $100.00 more then my asking price.
>
> Kevin
>
>
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