Date:         Thu, 17 Apr 2003 20:35:06 -0700
Reply-To:     Tom Young <tomyoung1@ATTBI.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Tom Young <tomyoung1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: How do I get this EGR filter on??? Fixed! But.....
Comments: To: Stan Wilder <wilden1@juno.com>
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Well, it wasn't such a big issue after all getting things to fit.  Either
the aftermarket stuff is a lot softer than Genuine Volkswagen or I don't
know my own strength.  Threaded a couple of large bolts in the flange,
chucked the bolts in the vise, applied some pressure, got things fairly
close.  'Course, there's a few "kinks" instead of smooth bends, but it'll
pass gas OK.

Now, having gotten it loosely in place and taking a look, I've got to
ask....

Do you Federal Vanagon guys have to remove the EGR filter each time you want
to check the valves on that side?  It sure looks like you'd have to!
---------------------------------------------------------------
Tom Young                       '81 Vanagon
Lafayette, CA 94549         '82 Westfalia
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1@juno.com>
To: <tomyoung1@attbi.com>
Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: How do I get this EGR filter on???


> Ok I think you got the right canister, sounds as though the Bus owner did
> some bending and you just got to restore the original bends.
> I've found that a combination of wood blocks nailed down to a big board
> and a rubber hammers works good for bringing bends around.
> Let me know if you need other pipes, EGR valves, I've got some.
>
> Stan Wilder
>
>
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:53:03 -0700 "Tom Young" <tomyoung1@attbi.com>
> writes:
> > Nope.  I've got a California vehicle so I know exactly what these
> > filters
> > look like.  Very different from the Federal.
> >
> > The filter I got at the junkyard was attached to a TypeIV motor out
> > of an
> > older bus, not Vanagon, but the number written on it was the same
> > number as
> > the one called for on Federal Vanagons.  Someone had put a very
> > funky
> > replacement on the "donor" engine for the port off the crossover
> > pipe, but
> > the crossover pipe itself looked just like the crossover pipe for a
> > Federal
> > air-cooled Vanagon.  Perhaps it is the wrong filter for an
> > air-cooled
> > Federal Vanagon, but it's very definitely not a California filter.
> >
> > It's not something I can "correct" in place.  No amount of loosening
> > of
> > flanges, attachments, etc. will get the flange on the filter lined
> > up close
> > enough to the flange on the crossover pipe so I can "muscle" it into
> > place.
> > Plus, I'm pretty sure any attempts to force it into place in situ
> > will
> > result in torn tin.
> >
> > What I'd really like, if any body knows, are some thoughts on how to
> > correct
> > the majority of the discrepancy off the engine so I can get things
> > "close
> > enough" so I can do the final "fine tuning" on the engine.  I'm
> > thinking
> > that I should get myself a couple of pieces of fairly strong iron
> > bar.  One
> > bar, drilled so I can attach the top flange to it, would go in the
> > bench
> > vise.  The other bar, longer and drilled to match the lower flange,
> > would be
> > my leverage bar.  I think this set up would work fairly well to
> > correct the
> > "cock" in the flange, but not as well to correct the fact that the
> > lower
> > tube is effectively too long right now as I need to move the lower
> > filter
> > flange toward the front of the engine a couple of inches.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > Tom Young                       '81 Vanagon
> > tte, CA 94549         '82 Westfalia
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1@juno.com>
> > To: <tomyoung1@ATTBI.COM>
> > Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: How do I get this EGR filter on???
> >
> >
> > > Without seeing the EGR square canister I'd say that there are CA
> > only and
> > > Federal Exhaust only.
> > > You got one or the other.
> > >
> > > Stan Wilder
> > >
> > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:35:46 -0700 Tom Young
> > <tomyoung1@ATTBI.COM>
> > > writes:
> > > > Hi all:
> > > >
> > > > I found a perfectly good EGR filter - probably an aftermarket
> > piece
> > > > - at a
> > > > junkyard.  It still had a "VW" part number written on it in
> > black
> > > > marker,
> > > > which was the same part number as specified for my Federal
> > vehicle.
> > > > The
> > > > only problem is, it doesn't seem to fit, though I think there
> > must
> > > > be a way
> > > > to "make it" fit.
> > > >
> > > > With the filter installed properly against the engine tin and
> > the
> > > > tube
> > > > leading up to the EGR itself, the lower flange of the filter
> > misses
> > > > its
> > > > mating flange in the crossover pipe by a wide margin.  It looks
> > like
> > > > the
> > > > flange needs to move toward the front of the engine by about
> > 1.5" -
> > > > 2", down
> > > > by about .75", and the flange needs to "rotate" (looking down on
> > the
> > > > flange
> > > > from above) by about 30 - 40 degrees.  This is all a lot more
> > than
> > > > the usual
> > > > little bit of persuasion exhaust pieces typically need and the
> > piece
> > > > is
> > > > sturdy enough I know I can't muster the muscle, with the part
> > in
> > > > place, to
> > > > get things properly aligned.
> > > >
> > > > Any words of wisdom out there on how to get this thing to fit?
> > > >
> > > > TIA.
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Tom Young                       '81 Vanagon
> > > > Lafayette, CA 94549         '82 Westfalia
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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