Date:         Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:08:44 -0600
Reply-To:     jbrush@AROS.NET
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Anonymous Digest <jbrush@AROS.NET>
Subject:      midas,mieneke?anyone ever try em
In-Reply-To:  <200304201846.h3KIkHDI009824@phobos.aros.net>

>I'm afraid I'm at the end of my rope....I've been changing my header
>pipes and mufflers on my two vanagons for 10 years now and I'm finally
>defeated by flange nuts anf bolts that are so rounded and frozen that
>I am unable to extract them.  Any tools that you have used that work
>well.... Has anyone ever tried MIDAS or MIENEKE to have exhaust work
>done. Thanks

They will rip you off and screw up your vanagon. Do not let them touch it.
Don't even let them put it up on a lift or they will shove it through the
ceiling, or they will shove the lift right through your gas tank.

There ought to be a muffler shop around you somewhere that is more
personalized, more interested in your van and your needs. The M and M guys
are the WalMart of mufflers and are ignorant of anything that doesn't fit
into their "cookie cutter" world of exhaust systems.

Your mileage may vary, but from here, they are a horrible, horrible place
to expect any quality, consideration, or concern.

Consider giving your money to a 'little guy" who thinks and works the way
that most of us here do.

John