Date:         Sat, 19 Apr 2003 20:31:07 -0400
Reply-To:     Jon <jon@FOREIGNAUTOSUPPLY.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jon <jon@FOREIGNAUTOSUPPLY.COM>
Subject:      Re: Re
Comments: To: John Bates <jwb1938@EARTHLINK.NET>
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    Well,
My comment was partially in gest...I 'm beginning to wonder if that is ok on
this site.  But, if you're serious about your question then I'll say there
pretty even as far as difficulty or amount of work wise...I just find it a
royal pain to wire in for a neutral safety switch and lights for the
indicator as opposed to the ridding of it by connecting a couple of wires.
So, again if you have all the parts either way that takes the sting out of
it, but if you don't and you were going to buy essentials new... by far way
more expensive to change to auto if you don't have all the stuff and it's
going to take you a considerable amount of time longer to get the auto all
in there and happy.  List of parts if you're interested: Pedal cluster,
shifter and complete box w/neutral safety set up, different accl. pedal
linkage, accl.cable,diff. throttle body or swap over linkage,shift
rod+bracket and spacers at the mount for the tranny, linkage to throttle
body for kick down set up,oh ya a tranny, and torque con. longer studs for
bell housing, or shorter I can't rem.,two diff. axle shafts, one is longer,
flex plate,and somebody correct me if I'm wrong but a different Ecu 022 to
022D for an auto it does matter and will not start, a starter and a block
off for the fluid resevoir.  Hopefully I didn't miss anything.  I'd rather
strip a std to convert an auto over as well...it would definitely be quicker
than stripping an auto to change a std. to auto.  Hope I got all your
questions, if I missed any let me know or I give parts to swap a to a std.
Thanks Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bates" <jwb1938@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 8:55 PM
Subject: Automatic to manual conversion


> In Email dated Fri, April 18
> Jon said
>
> "Oh, bye the
> way...you couldn't pay me enough anymore to go from 4-speed to automatic
> we've done many and I'd rather pick gum off of the bottom of my
> shoe-"
>
> If I could twitch my nose and convert my 84GL to auto I'd do it.  Jon, why
> would you rather "pick gum off " your shoe?
> Is it too much work, too expensive  ..... What?
>
> John Bates
> Fairfield County, OH