Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:46:15 -0400
Reply-To: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Subject: Re: FW: 15" Wheel Question
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I'm pretty sure I paid $177 Cdn for 215/65-15 Agilis 51's
through Canadian Tire Special orders, not that that is toop
much less but it is worth looking at.
Thanks,
Chris
---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:05:20 -0700
>From: Bob Elliott <bobe@WEBTIDE.NET>
>Subject: Re: FW: 15" Wheel Question
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
>The saga continues ...what tires are available for 15"
vanagon wheels?
>
>I called Michelin on Monday and told them my predicament.
The Michelin
>advisor immediately started talking about the Michelin
Agilis, which he
>claimed now came in a 15" size. The cost per tire Cdn for
these fellas was
>$215.00 per tire and he admitted they had a limited tread
life as some of
>the members here have noted!!!
>
>I then asked him about the XCA model but he said that one
wasn't available
>in 15" in Canada.
>
>Bottom line was that Michelin could not offer me a tire
under $215.00per to
>meet my van's load requirements. It looks like the Nokian
are the way I'll
>be going.
>
>bob elliott
>
>
>At 02:17 PM 20/04/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>>Bob, I take it you do have the 15 " wheels. If so, I think
you can ask
>>for a Michelin XCA 205/75R15 tire.
>>
>>I have that very tire on my van, only in a 14 inch. The
tire is a
>>Michelin XCA 205/75R14. 8 Ply, Re-inforced Sidewalls out
the Kazoo, Load
>>Range D, 65 PSI. It is a commercial tire, not normally
carried in the
>>Michelin regular line of tires. Everywhere I went to try
and get the
>>tire, Response #1 was always "Oh, we don't have a tire
like that".
>>Response # 2 "Oh that tire is sold through places like
Sams, Walmart,
>>etc," And finally, the last response " Oh, that is a
commercial tire, it
>>doesn't show in our catalog, we had to call about it, we
can get it,
>>it's in our warehouse, how many do you want???"
>>
>>I'm almost dead certain I saw a set of these in a 15 inch
size at one of
>>the tire places I called on. Anyway, my cost, mounted,
balanced and
>>installed on the van was right at $600 --- actually
$581.00 to be exact..
>>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>John Rodgers
>>88 GL Driver
>>
>>
>>Bob Elliott wrote:
>>
>>>Uhmmmm, well basically I thrilled with the number and
variance of the
>>>responses to my 215/65-15 tire question but I remain
flummoxed as to the
>>>solution. I thought the Michelin X Ones were going to be
the solution but
>>>members report that they fail the passenger tire side wall
load rating
>>>necessary for a Westy Vanagon of 1609 lbs by coming in at
only 1510 lbs.
>>>I'll be calling Michelin on Monday to see what they have
to say.
>>>
>>>In the meantime I've called my local Kal Tire dealer and
he advised me
>>>that
>>>given the Westy load specs that Michelins were out. He
said with a load
>>>rating of 1609lbs that I'd have to go with a light truck
tire, which some
>>>of you spoke about. His recommendation was the Nokian WS
205/65 R15.
>>>Exceeds the Westy 1609lb load requirement. Cost: $149.00
Cdn per tire.
>>>Drive away for $761.35 Cdn for the four (4). Looks like
this is the way
>>>I'll be going.
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>
>>>bob elliott
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>At 09:37 AM 18/04/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Larry Chase [mailto:lchase@attglobal.net]
>>>>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 9:06 AM
>>>>To: 'Vanagon Mailing List'
>>>>Cc: wetwesties@yahoogroups.;
VWVANFULLTIMERS@yahoogroups.com;
>>>>vwcc@yahoogroups.com; Syncro@yahoogroups.com
>>>>Subject: RE: 15" Wheel Question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bob,
>>>>
>>>>CAUTION ..... PLEASE DO THE FOLLOWING BEFORE PURCHASING
THE MICHELIN
>>>>X-One OR MX4 TIRES THAT GOWESTY SELLS
>>>>
>>>>1. Look at the tire specs at Tirerack or Michelin on
these tires. They
>>>>are LOAD Rated around 1510 lbs.
>>>>
>>>>If you look at Vanagon.Com load rating RECOMMENDATIONS
you will see that
>>>>a minimum of 1609 lbs is recommended.
>>>>
>>>>Vanagon.Com Tire Spec Link:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.vanagon.com/info/tires/
>>>>
>>>>2. Next talk to Michelin or Tirerack Reps and ask if they
recommend
>>>>these tires for a Vanagon.
>>>>
>>>>I have done this in the past and was told by both Company
Reps that
>>>>these tires are "NOT RECOMMENDED" FOR A VANAGON. They
said "the load
>>>>rating is too low".
>>>>
>>>>In the past, I spoke to Lucas (owner of Go Westy) about
this. He
>>>>strongly feels that the "Michelin & Tire Rack tech
support is wrong" and
>>>>that these are proper tires for the Vanagon.
>>>>
>>>>In fairness .... Please read Lucas's comments here:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.gowesty.com/wheelstiresinfo.html
>>>>
>>>>Tire choices always seems to be overly confusing.
>>>>
>>>>Comment ... I'm not trying to VENDOR BASH "GoWesty" .....
I believe them
>>>>to be an excellent vendor and have done a great deal of
business with
>>>>them. I purchased many parts and have had them do many
modifications on
>>>>the RoadHaus.
>>>>
>>>>They have always treated me fairly and their installation
and
>>>>modification work has been of the highest quality.
>>>>
>>>>I believe they Honestly believe they are offering the
best tires choice
>>>>to the Vanagon Community.
>>>>
>>>>Other than for tires ... I would recommend them highly.
>>>>
>>>>In anyone else had a DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW ON THESEW
TIRES ... PLEASE
>>>>SPEAK UP.
>>>>
>>>>On the Road and the Road is Great,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Larry Chase
>>>>Email: RoadGuy@RoadHaus.com
>>>>Web: www.RoadHaus.com
>>>>What: North American Road Trip
>>>>How: RoadHaus - 1990 VW Westfalia Syncro
>>>>Today: Denver, CO
>>>>
>>>>- - -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:43:35 -0700
>>>>From: Bob Elliott <bobe@WEBTIDE.NET>
>>>>Subject: Re: 15" Wheel Question
>>>>
>>>>Well after Damon let me know that GoWesty had the 15"
steel wheels too I
>>>>had a look around their site and found that the price
difference for a
>>>>set of (4) 15x7" steels was only $150 dollar different
than the 15x7"
>>>>Alloy Wheel Set (4) ...
>>>>
>>>>so I got the alloy set
>>>><http://www.gowesty.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=gw&>>
>>>>Product_Code=GVW-8525&Category_Code=wt-wheelstires>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now I gotta decide on tires. Tyler at GoWesty said that
the "very best"
>>>>choice I could make would be the Michelin X1. Best Cdn
price I can find
>>>>is $145 + installation (balance, valve stems and possible
alignment).
>>>>This is a little more $$$ than I'd planned on. Anyone got
other tire
>>>>suggestions/experiences to offer?
>>>>
>>>>thanks
>>>>
>>>>bob elliott
>>>
>>>
>>>Webtide Information Service, Inc.
>>>voice: 1 (604) 737-2835
>>>fax: 1 (604) 737-2701
>>>http://www.webtide.net/
>
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