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Date:         Tue, 6 May 2003 09:32:44 -0700
Reply-To:     TJ Hannink <tjhannink@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         TJ Hannink <tjhannink@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Reinforced Tires?
Comments: To: edward.bass@GM.COM
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--- Ed Bass <edward.bass@GM.COM> wrote: > Some recommend reinforced sidewall tires...my local > tire shop doesn't stock these and they are about > twice the price of basic tires.

Actually, the "some" you refer to would be Volkswagen, the vehicle manufacturer. The sticker in the front of my drivers door jamb recommends either a 'C' rated or 6PR (6-ply rated) tire in the 185 size or 'reinforced' sidewall tire in the 205 size.

There are still some reinforced sidewall passenger car tires out their made by various manufacturers (usually size 215 to 245), but they aren't stocked by tire dealers. The ply-rating of a particular tire is not commonly available at a tire dealer, but the manufacturer should have the info. A max inflation pressure of 44 psi is usually a reinforced sidewall tire, but check with the manufacturer to make sure.

Also ask him what the RPM of the tire is and compare that number to the calibration number on your speedometer.

> If my Westy is used only for occasional camping, > driving stability is fine (huge improvement compared

> to the 78 vintage Love Wagon I) and almost never off > road do I really need reinforced tires?

There are some Vanagons running around with regular passenger car tires on them, without reinforced sidewalls. The first (and only) Syncro Camper GL I have ever seen close up had a set of Goodyear Aquatreads in the P205/70R14 size with a '93' load rating with a max 35 psi inflation pressure. The vans owner swore by them, they were his second set.

Any good tire dealer wouldn't put them on a Vanagon, since they would be legally responsible if the tires were found to be the cause an accident. Unfortunately, some tire dealers don't train their people well enough to understand (or even to look at) the tire recommendation stickers located in the door jamb.

It really isn't a matter of driving stability, its a matter of load capacity. Under rated (and under inflated) tires build up a lot of heat under load, that heat causes tire failure. The end results of the tire failure vary proportionally to your speed at the time of the failure.

I would consider the value of the cargo you carry in your van and how you would react if there was an accident caused by using tires that didn't meet the manufacturers recommendations. Compare the potential loss to the extra cost for a set of proper tires.

Good luck,

===== TJ Hannink Goldibox - 1987 Vanagon Camper, Wolfsburg Edition Winter Park, Florida http://home.earthlink.net/~tjhannink/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wolfsburg_campers http://photos.yahoo.com/tjhannink [Vanagon] Album

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