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Date:         Fri, 9 May 2003 02:44:57 +0000
Reply-To:     Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tiico Engine Questions
Comments: To: collum@MFX.NET
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Ok seeing as how I have done a few of these conversions I will add my two cents.

The Tiico engine conversion is probably the best one I have seen out there. It comes with good instructions (except for the one line that states "enter the bolt for the right side mount" ;). It is fairly straight forward. Look at what is being done to these vans by doing the conversion. It is alot of modification. I have done plenty of upgrades and conversions to many different types of VW's. Out of all of them this is probably the best one I have seen. Maybe some of you got something that wasnt quite right. Tough, suck it up and quite whining. If you got something a little off then maybe you arent qualified or experienced or whatever to be doing the conversion. Doing ANY type of conversion requires using a mechanical engineering mind. Some times you have to think about what you are doing. I have found problems with the earlier conversions and parts but I got through that. i have also added information to the manual in an effort to make things easier for others who might be doing it for the first time. These engines and basic design have been in production for almost 30 years. The WBX engine was (and no longer is for good reason) in production for 9. That should tell you something. The angle that the engine sits in the engine bay is just fine. If you are having problems with it then you probably have done something wrong. This is not to say that every kit is perfect and flawless. However, some are. So those of you who like doing headgaskets every 50k miles then keep your WBX's. Those of you who like crossbreeding and integration of non-VW JAPANESE stock parts then go with the Subaru. Those of you who like a proven engine that is very easy to work on and modify then get the Tiico. Although, I dont have one in my van (cause I cant afford it) I am putting together a 1.8l turbo engine with the same basic hangers and everything in my van. I expect to run into far more problems than any Tiico owner could have. But its fun and will smoke many Honduhs ;)

All that said, stop the whining. Unless of course there are only 2 of us that think the Tiico covnersion is good. Remember kids, its always easy to remember the negative things but not so easy to remember the positive. And if you DONT have any experience at all with the Tiico; you probably shouldnt say anything.

*steps down from soap box*

Chris DeLong Fine Tuning 206.367.5503 www.finetuningperformance.com Seattle, WA USA

>From: Mike Collum <collum@MFX.NET> >Reply-To: Mike Collum <collum@MFX.NET> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: Tiico Engine Questions >Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 20:53:44 -0400 > > > tiico is taking a bad rap from a few customers, their are us >customers who > > are 100% satisified. how many kits sold and may be 10-15 oil problems > > maybe. thoes who do not have tiico seen to knock it down pretty >Quick. > > Peter is 100 percent their for you if you contact him, however it seem >a few > > people cry to the list and rant on and on about something that really >doesn > > not exist. may be I am just a lucky customer. > > > > Dan > > >Dan, > >Are you saying that the kit you received was truly "Plug and Play"? >That you didn't have to go to the store for something or to some >fabricator to get something made in order to finalize the job? > >Or ... are you saying that in spite of a few hassles that you're 100% >satisfied with the "End result"? > >Inquiring minds want to know. > >Mike

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