Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 20:32:00 -0700
Reply-To: wilden1@JUNO.COM
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Daily First Start Hard
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It is possible to flood an injected engine in a Air Cooled or Water
Cooled Vanagon.
The cold start valve sprays fuel into the air plenum and it can flood the
engine since it is actuated for the full starter cycle. Anytime your
engine is hard to start it is likely to get flooded.
I'd start on simple things like point adjustment, clean or replace the
plugs, check all engine bay electrical connections. Examine the rotor cap
and rotor for corrosion.
The afm controls the fuel pump at start up time and then switches over to
the double relay for control.
This could also be the problem.
I've always found hard starting to be a combination of small things that
just reached a coordinated weak point and caused the problem.
Stan Wilder
On Tue, 20 May 2003 17:39:36 -0400 "Russell, William"
<william.russell@UW-INC.COM> writes:
> Edmund,
>
> I have a very similar problem with my 1980. Basically, the first
> start
> of the day is a nightmare. It used to be that I'd have to give it
> one
> 30 second (or so) cycle, then wait a minute, then give it another
> 30
> second cycle, then wait a minute, then on the third cycle I'd hear
> it
> cough. At this point I would wait another minute and then it would
> fire
> up (coughing more and more until it was running). Now I've noticed
> that
> sometimes (more often than not) it won't start at all for the first
> number of cycles. However, if I walk away for 15 minutes or more,
> the
> next time I try, it starts right away. I'd love to hear what you
> discover as you try to resolve your similar problem.
>
> Willy
> 1980 Westfalia "Jazzy"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On
> Behalf
> Of Edmund Shotwell
> Sent: May 20, 2003 5:15 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Daily First Start Hard
>
> I have a second problem.
> Every day the first time I start my 86 GL it is hard to get it to
> fire.
> The
> more moisture in the air the harder it is to get going. But after
> it
> does
> start, I don't have any more hard starts all day. Even after it
> sits at
> work for several hours.
>
> What happens the first time each day is I have to crank it for 1 to
> 3
> minutes and then just as I let go of the key it will turn over
> once.
> Then I
> crank it with the gas pedal down and it usually fires up within
> another
> minute or so. The rest of the day it starts within 10 seconds. I
> have
> made
> sure everything is plugged in in the engine compartment, and I have
> replaced
> the cap and rotor, and the plugs. but still the hard start in the
> morning.
> Today I had to give up as it did not start after fifteen minutes of
> trying.
>
>
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