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Date:         Sun, 25 May 2003 21:36:09 -0400
Reply-To:     lauterba <lauterba@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         lauterba <lauterba@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject:      Re: How long to pump down A/C ?
Comments: To: Fredrich Hesterberg <FredsVW@WEBTV.NET>
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Fred, thank you for your reply. Long pumping time does not suck the hoses flat. Pulling the vacuum through the Schrader valve limits the pumping speed even with the biggest vacuum pump. The objective in pumping down the system is not only to remove the air, but also remove the water on the surface of the tubing, etc. I know from many years experience with vacuum equipment in the R&D lab that it generally takes pumping down overnight to get rid of the water.

John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fredrich Hesterberg" <FredsVW@WEBTV.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 2:56 PM Subject: Re: How long to pump down A/C ?

16 hours? Are you wanting to suck the hoses flat too? Not needed this long to evacuate. The most should take with worn out old pump, maybe 1 hour. New O-rings are needed anytime system is opened at fittings. Just a better job, no leaks.

Good Afternoon,

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Steve, thank you for your reply. I reused the old O-rings as they were tight. I put it in my question just in case reuse of the O-rings was a non-no. Right now, I have had the system pumping down for about 16 hours so it should be dry by the time I fill it later this afternoon. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Cotsford" <Cotsford@AOL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: Re: How long to pump down A/C ? Why would you use the old o-rings ? You can get adaptor kits at Pep Boys quite cheap and the new ones are bluish-green and work with all the oils you may encounter these days whereas the old black ones wont. I would suggest that you pull the vacuum down for at least 45 mins. Longer if you can wait. If you are using a conventional gauge set , then you can open both high and low side to the center hose, assuming thats where you have the pump attached. Both sides will show a vacuum reading and I would like to see at least 28. What kind of pump are you using? Sounds like a medical pump. It maybe worth your while to borrow an automotive a/c pump which probably wont give any volume values. Once a good vacuum is pulled, I doubt if the volume means much. I borrow a friends'. I dont know what brand it is, he just calls it Monica, lol I have worked on 3 systems this spring, including converting my recently sold '84 Westy to R134a. If you want to chat on the phone about it, I would be happy to. p-mail me for the number. good luck, Steve Cotsford Columbia SC

Fred


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