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Date:         Fri, 23 May 2003 13:07:58 -0400
Reply-To:     Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@USA.DUPONT.COM>
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From:         Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@USA.DUPONT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Need engine work in Little Rock/Memphis
Comments: To: Tom Young <tomyoung1@ATTBI.COM>
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The sound could be due to low oil pressure and the lifters are collapsing. I ran into a similar sound after adding CD-2 to my oil to help clean up the lifters on my old engine. The engine lost power after the oil heated up on a highway run. It would run fine again after cooling down. She may want to spring for an oil change w/ 20-50, or straight 40 or even 50 wt. It would be a good idea to have the oil pressure checked too at some point and better yet, have a gauge installed. I wonder if the oil light flickers at hot idle? Does the oil light come on at ignition on?

Jay '85 Westy

Tom Young <tomyoung1@ATTBI.COM>@gerry.vanagon.com> on 05/23/2003 12:38:52 PM

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Sounds to me (pun intended) like it might be more-or-less "normal" leakdown of hydraulic lifters. If it's a clattering that quickly goes away (like, in the first minute) and in all other respects the vehicle drives OK, then I'd guess it's that and nothing more. It's a little puzzling that you don't hear this on startup in the morning because lifters that will bleed down will frequently do it overnight.

Hydraulic lifters that bleed down will give a fairly mechanical "clatter" while dieseling (pre-detonation) tends to have a somewhat "softer" sound, kind of like someone dropping marbles in an empty coffee can. Also, if it's just one or two lifters that bleed down the sound will be more "directional", i.e. you might characterize it coming from, say, the #3 cylinder.

--------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Young '81 Vanagon Lafayette, CA 94549 '82 Westfalia --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "mary graham" <marymontana@HOTMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: Need engine work in Little Rock/Memphis

> i'm on the road for the summer, first real trip with my 85 camper. i've > noticed lately that after an hour or so of driving and then sitting for a > while, on restart she starts to sound a bit like a diesel. after sitting > overnight she sounds normal. no lights flashing. she was a little less > than a pint low on oil after the drive from dallas to hot springs (plus > additional meandering miles). >

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