Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:43:47 +0200
Reply-To: Per Martin Joraholmen <per_martin_j@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Per Martin Joraholmen <per_martin_j@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Water, dirt and rust in gas (where have the gas gone)
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Hi again all
Thanks for all the replies. I understand it is time for replacing that old
gas tank.
Hoped I could use the old tank this summer and decided to manually separate
the water/dirt from the gas by emptying out one litre at the time from the
gas tank. The water and dirt is heavier than the gas, so I could pour most
of the gas back into the tank. In theory if I did this many enough times, I
would get rid of most of the water and dirt.
Pulled the hose from the gas tank today (as yesterday) and only a little gas
came out. Strange as I added 10 litres yesterday. Tried starting the van,
but no chance. Where had all the gas gone ? Time to bring out some
specialist tools. The first tool is a Manual-Human-Blow-In-Gas-Tank tool.
Basically that is a rubber hose with me on the other end blowing into the
outlet of the gas tank. Opened the gas tank lid before blowing. First time,
yes bobbles, second time bobbles, third time nothing. Strange, and time to
bring out the next specialist tool.
Manual-Human-Suction-Gas-From-Tank-That-Will-Make-You-End-Up-With-Gas-In-You
r-Mouth tool. Almost the same procedure as the blow tool. Rubber hose with
me on the other end trying to suck gas out of the tank. It worked, gas was
flowing fine out of the tank. Emptied out at litre, connected the hose,
refilled most of the gas. Disconnected the hose again to drain another
litre, but no gas came out. Repeated the Manual-Suction process and drained
out another litre. Repeated this many times, until almost no water/dirt was
in the gas.
Connected the hose again and tried to start the van. No chance. Disconnected
the hose, no gas came out. Filled another 8 litres and can see on the gauge
that there is gas on the tank. No start, no gas to come out of the tank.
What no, where is all the gas ? Any suggestions ?
Thanks
Per
----- Original Message -----
From: "Per Martin Joraholmen" <per_martin_j@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 9:06 PM
Subject: Water, dirt and rust in gas
Hi all
Some weeks ago I posted a message about the engine was suffocating. I did
receive several tips, one of hose where to check for water in gas. So done,
and yes, plenty of water. Water was not the only thing I found. Lots of
brown dirt or rust particles were also in the gas. Changed my gas filter
(gas inside the filer was all brown). Hope none of the particles has reached
the injectors. Emptied out as much gas as I could by lifting the car on
front driver side. Filled 10 litres of gas and added water remover (not sure
what it is called in English).
The car is still not handling well. Rechecked for water, and yes it is still
there.
Two questions:
Anyone know how to completely empty the gas tank ?
I would probably need to get rid of the dirt particles that are in my gas
tank. Can it be cleaned while mounted on the car and if not, is there any
problems with removing the tank that I should be aware of ?
It is a -86 Caravelle with a -85 1.9L injection engine (no converter or
oxygen sensor).
Thanks