Date:         Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:51:45 -0400
Reply-To:     Jorge Osorio <josorio@PIGSEYE.KENNESAW.EDU>
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From:         Jorge Osorio <josorio@PIGSEYE.KENNESAW.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Water, dirt and rust in gas (where have the gas gone)
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I've used that second specialist tool before and ended up burping gas for
24 hours straight, helps cut the grease if you have a heavy meal



On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Per Martin Joraholmen wrote:

> Hi again all
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the replies. I understand it is time for replacing that old
> gas tank.
>
>
>
> Hoped I could use the old tank this summer and decided to manually separate
> the water/dirt from the gas by emptying out one litre at the time from the
> gas tank. The water and dirt is heavier than the gas, so I could pour most
> of the gas back into the tank. In theory if I did this many enough times, I
> would get rid of most of the water and dirt.
>
>
>
> Pulled the hose from the gas tank today (as yesterday) and only a little gas
> came out. Strange as I added 10 litres yesterday. Tried starting the van,
> but no chance. Where had all the gas gone ? Time to bring out some
> specialist tools. The first tool is a Manual-Human-Blow-In-Gas-Tank tool.
> Basically that is a rubber hose with me on the other end blowing into the
> outlet of the gas tank. Opened the gas tank lid before blowing. First time,
> yes bobbles, second time bobbles, third time nothing. Strange, and time to
> bring out the next specialist tool.
> Manual-Human-Suction-Gas-From-Tank-That-Will-Make-You-End-Up-With-Gas-In-You
> r-Mouth tool. Almost the same procedure as the blow tool. Rubber hose with
> me on the other end trying to suck gas out of the tank. It worked, gas was
> flowing fine out of the tank. Emptied out at litre, connected the hose,
> refilled most of the gas. Disconnected the hose again to drain another
> litre, but no gas came out. Repeated the Manual-Suction process and drained
> out another litre. Repeated this many times, until almost no water/dirt was
> in the gas.
>
> Connected the hose again and tried to start the van. No chance. Disconnected
> the hose, no gas came out. Filled another 8 litres and can see on the gauge
> that there is gas on the tank. No start, no gas to come out of the tank.
>
>
>
> What no, where is all the gas ? Any suggestions ?
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>
> Thanks
>
> Per
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Per Martin Joraholmen" <per_martin_j@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 9:06 PM
> Subject: Water, dirt and rust in gas
>
>
> Hi all
>
> Some weeks ago I posted a message about the engine was suffocating. I did
> receive several tips, one of hose where to check for water in gas. So done,
> and yes, plenty of water. Water was not the only thing I found. Lots of
> brown dirt or rust particles were also in the gas. Changed my gas filter
> (gas inside the filer was all brown). Hope none of the particles has reached
> the injectors. Emptied out as much gas as I could by lifting the car on
> front driver side. Filled 10 litres of gas and added water remover (not sure
> what it is called in English).
>
> The car is still not handling well. Rechecked for water, and yes it is still
> there.
>
>
>
> Two questions:
>
> Anyone know how to completely empty the gas tank ?
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> I would probably need to get rid of the dirt particles that are in my gas
> tank. Can it be cleaned while mounted on the car and if not, is there any
> problems with removing the tank that I should be aware of ?
>
>
>
> It is a -86 Caravelle with a -85 1.9L injection engine (no converter or
> oxygen sensor).
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>
>
> Thanks
>