Date:         Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:58:43 -0700
Reply-To:     Bill N <freeholder@STARBAND.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bill N <freeholder@STARBAND.NET>
Subject:      Re: 1982 EGR valve
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Your point seems to be that since other people show no regard for the environment, there is no
reason for you to do so either.  Is that what you really meant to say?  My kids used to say,
"Everybody else does it."  Once they grew up, they got over trying to use that as justification
for doing something bad.

Of course there are lots of problems contributing to the degradation of the environment.  If
you want to associate yourself with the polluters, fine, but I would rather try to be part of
the solution, not the problem.  I have five vehicles, and none of them has freon in the AC.  I
also have four buildings on my property, all air conditioned, and none of them use freon
either.  I maintain my vehicles to try to limit pollution, even though there is no inspection
or emissions testing where I live.  I could go on, but the point is that I do these things
because it's the right thing to do.  Yes, lots of other people and many big companies don't
make the effort, but I will do it anyway.  Maybe it won't help a lot, but it will help a
little.  You can't do everything, but you can do something.  Don't give up so easily.  Quitters
never win.  The air overall is cleaner than it used to be, and in 20 years it will be cleaner
still.  Do your part, however small.  At least try to make a difference.

Bill in the Southwest

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vanagon Man" <vgonman@MSN.COM>
>
> Wake Up!   I have seen employees at the Mecklenburg County landfill in
> Charlotte, NC take an ax to freon lines in old
> Refridgerators.............when an old car goes to the junk yard, in most
> places it is crushed and goes to a car shredder...........no one is removing
> the freon before it goes thryu the shredder........BTW where does the freon
> go when it leaks out of your air conditioning system?  THE AIR!
>
> And do you REALLY believe that that big black soot that pours out of diesel
> trucks and vehicles is OK for the environment?
>
> Ever drin thru a town with a steel mill?  There is fallout
> everywhere........I have a pretty little city called Georgetown SC about an
> hour from me.........there is Brown  dust all over all the buildings, but
> the steel mill says it is not from them...................there is a factory
> called ORMET that smelts aluminum in Hannibal Ohio.my great grandfather has
> a farm 20 miles away.........the fallout from that plant reuins about 20% of
> his cows teeth, and twice a year ORMET send s vet out to all the farms in a
> surrounding area buying these damaged cows at market value.............
>
> So before you get on your high horse about one individual disabling his EGR
> Valve, look at the big picture.  It is a grain of sand in the Mojave desert.
>
> I am not condoning the disabling of emissions devices, but government rules
> making an owner keep the 20+ year old emissions controls in perfect shape
> while these other conditions exist is pure hogwash.