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Date:         Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:43:15 -0700
Reply-To:     wilden1@JUNO.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: (NVC) BusDepot.Com Beta Test
Comments: To: jeff@TSSGI.COM
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Bill gates claims that 90% of his software in use outside the US is pirated, copies etc. This is not just a US problem it's worldwide. First the program then the fix, fix, fix, fix and if you didn't have an internet connection you'd never get it fixed. Unix had Open Destop that was a graphical interface in about 89-91? .............. if they hadn't been their usual greedy self (Santa Cruse and Xexix along with AT&T nobody would have to deal with windows.) Bill gates has put four year olds on computers with his Windows programs. I can still hear my firends 4 year old, "I just scanned that picture and sent it to Granny". Mom says "Good going honey I'll call Granny in a few minutes and you can say hello". She can't read and she can't write but she uses the computer .............. wow! A 4 I was wandering around the house looking for my Tonka toy cars and trucks to go play in the sandbox.

Stan

On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:08:33 -0700 Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@TSSGI.COM> writes: > Of course with Microschmeg, Alpha is early release, Beta is the > version they > sell to the public, followed up by service packs... > > Must be a reason I only develop on UNIX (LINUX) now... > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On > Behalf > Of mark drillock > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:33 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: (NVC) BusDepot.Com Beta Test > > > That's right. Microshaft does not make a good example to follow for > smaller commercial software products. 2 big reasons come to mind. > > They need to test their products on a massive number of varying > hardware > and software environments and this is not practical or even > possible > with in-house test beds. > > To facilitate and speed up large end-user implementation and > modification efforts early release is needed so that these efforts > can > take place concurrently with the later stages of the overall > product > development. > > Mark Drillock > 22 years in the computer biz but I am done now > > > Jeffrey Schwaia wrote: > > > > In 20 years of software development, we almost always paid people > to > perform > > Beta testing. Usually by offering overtime or comp time to > employees. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > You know, Alpha testing is when you hire someone to test it for > you. This > > is Ron's Beta test. > > Beta testing, by definition, is done by outside people. I don't > know of a > > single company that > > pays Beta testers. I have been running the version of Microsoft > Office > that > > will be coming out > > around the end of the year for some time now. Microsoft doesn't > pay me to > > do that. Why should > > Ron? > > > > Bill in the Southwest > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Goff" <THX0001@AOL.COM> > > > > > > Ron, my man, instead of expecting a free ride from the List, why > don't > you > > > just break down and hire someone who knows what they are doing? > Now, > can > > I give > > > my 10 points to someone else? > >

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